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Hermes
12-07-2011, 12:45 AM
Not a ///M, but I thought you might be interested. The project my buddy and I are working on.

Pictures!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/53b00e84.jpg

#4122/77639 2002 (MT - US), #4122/99362 2002 (total - US)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2485.jpg

What BMW AG emailed me:

"The BMW 2002 US VIN 1664122 was manufactured on November 26th, 1968 and delivered on December 10th, 1968 to the importer BMW Concessionaires G.B. in London (Great Britain). The original colour was Chamonix, paint code 085."

2002 roundel on the left. Middle is the original one from my first car, '91 735i (Alpine White on Black Leather). Right is a modern plastic one I have as a backup for the E46
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/roundelprogression.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2505.jpg

dirty old valve cover, took it off to clean it up a bit. I think a new coat of high temp paint is in order.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2510.jpg

valve cover off
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2509.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2506.jpg

nasty old Bosch plugs, had to think about starting up before
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2514.jpg

no problem now! (yeah, realized you had to unscrew those little caps.)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2512.jpg

cleaned valve cover back on, new spark plugs - FTW!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2516.jpg

click for video of engine running after we changed plugs
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/th_IMG_2517.jpg (http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/?action=view&current=IMG_2517.mp4)

temporary back seat from an E30, original back seat needs to be re-upholstered (earlier today when the sun was out)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/backseat.jpg

We then drove it to the gas station and filled it up. Stopped at CVS for smokes and drinks. Car was 3/3 on start-up with the new plugs, before it was like "do I really want to start up?"
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2520.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2521.jpg

lots more to come, going to try to spray a coat of primer to at least protect the body but that means I need to get home while the sun is out. Hopefully I'll get a chance in the next few days.

If anybody has parts for a 2002 (or even a 1602) please let me know. :wave:

Here is the other project we're working on - 1971 Porsche 911T
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/71%20911T/IMG_2494.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/71%20911T/IMG_2495.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/71%20911T/IMG_2496.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/71%20911T/IMG_2493.jpg

Laidback
12-07-2011, 02:22 AM
:eek: I love it:excited: this projects are amazinf keep us posted:)


Im going to post a 2002 turbo in excellent condition, the owner of Center BMW collects them and this is 95% OEM...

Mkrazy650
12-07-2011, 02:27 AM
i love 2002's and this project is siiiiick!

M3LIKECHIPS
12-07-2011, 03:17 AM
Niiiiiiice!!!!$

indohan
12-07-2011, 05:29 AM
This is a subscribe-able thread! :D
Look forward for more updates!

Hermes
12-07-2011, 07:50 AM
Thanks everybody. It's definitely gonna be a work in process for a while.

Also, if anybody happens to run across a MATCHING SET of black plates please let me know ASAP. Problem is they have to be the correct sequence for 1969, so first letter should be a Z (ZCP or ZHP would be sick!). They won't be cheap so don't worry, just let me know if you find them.

If it comes down to it I can always get a 'Historical Vehicle' plate.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/9-18-11/DSC_9639-1.jpg

E90///M3
12-07-2011, 08:37 AM
nice... my buddy has like 7 2002s... most of them came from the UK and surrounding parts of Europe but all of them were restored completely and run flawless.

this is definitely going to be a fun project.

Hermes
12-07-2011, 09:22 AM
nice... my buddy has like 7 2002s... most of them came from the UK and surrounding parts of Europe but all of them were restored completely and run flawless.

this is definitely going to be a fun project.

Any chance he has some spare parts? I'm sure I'm gonna have a list of things I'll need. Off the top of my head I first want some of the vertical slats for the kidney grill (I have the actual grill)

E90///M3
12-07-2011, 09:46 AM
Any chance he has some spare parts? I'm sure I'm gonna have a list of things I'll need. Off the top of my head I first want some of the vertical slats for the kidney grill (I have the actual grill)

in all honesty... last rumor i heard was, he is running from the IRS :lolhit:

he was known as atan888 on the forums.

here's a pic of his project cars before i lost touch with him.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s118/atan888/DSC00944.jpg

E90///M3
12-07-2011, 09:52 AM
found more pics of the first 2002 he had:

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/dsc1209d.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/dsc1225.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/dsc1224.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/dsc1222o.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/dsc1220f.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/Picture002.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/Picture005.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/Picture009.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/100_3744.jpg
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/742002turbo/Bella/100_3767.jpg

Hermes
12-07-2011, 09:54 AM
Nice garage, I want one of those Alfa's one day too!

Bimmer
12-07-2011, 12:20 PM
Wow, it looks like fun. Subscribed.

Hermes
12-08-2011, 07:09 PM
ok, some new pictures

apparently this is what it looked like a while ago, stupid PO sent the black plates in to the DMV and they were destroyed. Interesting that it had frenched lights... (is it a sign?)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/frenchblackplate.jpg


test fit the grill, need to do some more work first before it's final.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2526.jpg


2002 trunk roundel vs E46
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2532.jpg


my old E24 shifter vs nasty shifter that was in the car
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2536.jpg


a little shorter, I like it...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2537.jpg


FTW!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2540.jpg


preparing to cover up some of the bare metal with self-etching primer, full coat of primer will come later
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2538.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2542.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2541.jpg


two hooker trunk
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2543.jpg


time for new door cards
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2546.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2545.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2547.jpg


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2550.jpg

Hermes
12-10-2011, 10:51 PM
so today we tried to change the brake and clutch fluid. Luckily a friend of mine let me borrow his low-profile jack as the one we had didn't work (another issue with one of the PO's, we think a kid owned the car in the 80s... cut springs)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000902.jpg


jack on frame rail plus 2 jack stands just in case... and we chocked the passenger side rear wheel as both driver's side wheels were off the ground.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000903.jpg


yeah, we need a new complete exhaust system. F the old one.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000904.jpg


maybe some race headers too...
http://www.iemotorsport.com/mm5/graphics/00000002/02stephead2.jpg


the block
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000906.jpg


oh look... no guard on the flywheel. stupid PO :nono:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000915.jpg


found it in the trunk, back on
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000918.jpg


Steve bleeding the clutch fluid. Right after this picture was taken we realized the seal on the slave cylinder is bad, looks like time for a new one.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000912.jpg


while bleeding the brake fluid we realized the seals on the reservoir are bad. Luckily those were ordered the other day so they should be in on Tuesday. Gave up on the brake system for now.

the craptastic caps on the reservoir, middle one is fine; it's just the outer ones that are bad.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/IMG_2557.jpg

Funny thing though, we got some BBQ sauce caps to fit on temporarily until I can grab some new ones on Monday from LJ Independent BMW (they have them in stock)

Hermes
12-27-2011, 09:23 PM
I guess I haven't updated this in a few weeks...

I called BBS and they claim I can get these RF's (15x6) to fit, but I might need Aplina fender flares. If I go flared I might try to get some 15x7 or 8 rears

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/ajp00006/bbs_rf__bs_ci3_l.jpg

they will go with the Wilwood BBK

http://www.iemotorsport.com/mm5/graphics/00000002/02bbk300mm15.jpg

Some more primer/working on the clutch

sanding
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000920.jpg

removed grills
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000927.jpg

more sanding
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000925.jpg

clean up all the dust
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000930.jpg

now for some primer
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000934.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000936.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000939.jpg

oh hello POS slave cylinder...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000958.jpg


and now for some pics of the interior for those of you who've never been in a 2002

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000952.jpg

late 70's 911 seats
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000946.jpg


E30 rear bench
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000945.jpg


and the armrest works still!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000944.jpg


original seat belts (I lol'd @ Made in W. Germany)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000942.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000943.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000953.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000954.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000955.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000956.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000966.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000967.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000968.jpg

picked up correct passenger door inner handle ($10) from Autobahn and some freebies from LJ Independent (slave cylinder pushrod + new brake fluid reservior). A package came in w/new VCG, e-brake cables, 4 brake hoses, temperature sender, fuel filter, exhaust hangers and some other stuff, I can't remember right now. Also took of Solex carb and rebuilt it.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/bd5210ec.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/cadf264e.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/887321d0.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/29243ad6.jpg


at some point soon we're going to have to make some new rear cards, will deal with that when we have time.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/8f62896b.jpg

so we got the new slave in, but we're having sync problems. Need to find a clutch rebuild kit but the problem is because of the build date (11/68) we can't find the right one. Our fall back plan if we can't find one is to start searching for an E21 5-speed for swap

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/7bbf0814.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/32114f74.jpg


picked up some E24 rear buckets, need to be re-upholstered. Also we need to find the center armrest that goes with it so we can modify the plastic backing so they fit (not hard)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/938e4809.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/bfb38f12.jpg

the new key to my heart
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/P1000969.jpg

Laidback
12-28-2011, 01:13 AM
You guys have been busy, great job and build...keep us posted:)

Hacauce
12-28-2011, 02:05 AM
Wow man great work! Really inspirational to see projects like this

Hermes
12-28-2011, 08:54 AM
Thanks guys, I will do my best to keep this updated

Hermes
01-12-2012, 02:36 AM
UPDATE
picked up some Red Line
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/0a8ec372.jpg

working on the rear seats
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/a15e580b.jpg

old foam
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/270cea2d.jpg

new foam
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/1c1f0a53.jpg

almost done with both seats

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/jhermes/2002/1009219b.jpg