View Full Version : Vishnu or Juice Box?
Laidback
12-16-2008, 07:39 AM
Feedbacks and opinion?
Ken@ExoticsTuning
12-16-2008, 11:32 AM
How about some new option from ESS ??
Erik@AutohausFrankfurt
12-17-2008, 10:32 AM
I personally have not driven a BMW with the Juice Box or Vishnu, but I do know that ALL levels of Dinan software are researched and the performance and reliability speaks for itself !!
Laidback
12-17-2008, 10:35 AM
Erik,
How many hp/ tq does the Dinan software have for the x35's? and from our conversation last Sunday you said that there is a new one that came out...I personally have not driven a BMW with the Juice Box or Vishnu, but I do know that ALL levels of Dinan software are researched and the performance and reliability speaks for itself !!
myke951
12-17-2008, 01:08 PM
Dinan is terrible... They are now selling the scoops with their e60 m5 intake because of the RPI and RPI's research... Dinan is such a miss with the e60m5 its ridiculous... I am sorry, but i think dinan is the biggest rip off per dollar... usually little to no gains... and its not hard to make hp on a turbo car so the chip is expected...
Erik@AutohausFrankfurt
12-17-2008, 02:07 PM
Wow Mike that is a very bold statement to make. Of course everyone has their own opinion. But lets take a look at what really is going on with when software is released. Here are some links straight from Dinan that are very interesting to read. Enjoy !!
http://www.dinancars.com/bmw/technial-info/dispelling-performance-software-myths
http://www.dinancars.com/assets/File/Safety%20stratagies%20for%203%20liter%20TT%20-%20revised.pdf
http://www.dinancars.com/bmw/technial-info/the-future-of-the-internal-combustion-engine
Erik@AutohausFrankfurt
12-17-2008, 02:12 PM
Chris, here is a list a document for all the gains for 335 as well as all software changes that have been made. (At the Toys for Tots event the software I was talking about was for E60 550I.)
http://www.dinancars.com/assets/File/Press%20Release%20335i%20software%20REV%20A%20EDIT ED.pdf
Laidback
12-17-2008, 11:16 PM
Dinan started the Ram air ( Z4 2.5 and 3.0) way back http://www.dinancars.com/store/product.php?productid=1347&cat=480&page=1Dinan is terrible... They are now selling the scoops with their e60 m5 intake because of the RPI and RPI's research... Dinan is such a miss with the e60m5 its ridiculous... I am sorry, but i think dinan is the biggest rip off per dollar... usually little to no gains... and its not hard to make hp on a turbo car so the chip is expected...
myke951
12-18-2008, 04:13 AM
I know... Im just a dinan hater despite my dinan CAI on the mini...lol... I know they started the scoops but failed miserably... the design was wrong and that why little to no gains were present... I know software is complex, im just making an arguement out of boredum...lol
myke951
12-18-2008, 04:15 AM
Oh an my reference to the scoops is that eloy tested them and it showed gains on the m5, so dinan ended up making scoops for the M5 after scratching the scoops years ago and coupling them with the e60 m5 dinan intake boxes and MAF...
Laidback
12-18-2008, 11:23 AM
Dang Dinan did it too?:launch:Oh an my reference to the scoops is that eloy tested them and it showed gains on the m5, so dinan ended up making scoops for the M5 after scratching the scoops years ago and coupling them with the e60 m5 dinan intake boxes and MAF...
myke951
12-18-2008, 12:17 PM
yes sir... ask eloy about it... he finds it funny
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