View Full Version : 0.9APR on E92 M3!!!
///NEM3SES
10-14-2008, 05:53 PM
To whom it may concern:
(sales must be down)
LINK: http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/FinancialServices/M3APROffer.aspx?enc=aZO8YHupLdCXu1mvaUtyz8wz6mn+B3 UMsMTzGzceKpE=
There's no better time than right now to own a legend.
http://resource.bmwusa.com/image_47e369dd-fd2a-4dda-aa38-51c68ffa9efd.arox
Powered by the first-ever production V-8, and featuring 414 horsepower that redlines at an unrivalled 8400 rpm, driving an M3 is an unparalleled experience. And, with a special APR rate as low as 0.9% for up to 60 months, now is the perfect time to buy one.
* 0.9% APR is available on the 2008 M3 Sedan and Convertible
* 0.9% APR is available on the 2008 M3 Coupe
Plus, from now until December 31, 2008, new M3 owners will receive an exclusive one-day pass to The M3 Driving Experience at the BMW Performance Driving School in Spartanburg, SC. It's a great opportunity to get behind the wheel of one of the most thrilling Ultimate Driving Machines BMW has ever created.
Laidback
10-14-2008, 07:00 PM
WoW great deals!
i want this so bad.........must resist.......:drool:
Bimmerlifestyle
10-14-2008, 08:04 PM
i wish
SYCO GT
10-14-2008, 08:31 PM
And not only the M Driving Experience included for a day for you and your guest, but also hotel accomodations and meals are included...
Pretty nice deal...
Someone checked inventory and told me there were 30 on the Crevier lots.
Yes, times are definitely tough.
batwife
10-14-2008, 08:32 PM
The devil is tempting me.....
SYCO GT
10-14-2008, 08:34 PM
* 0.9% APR is available on the 2008 M3 Coupe
The flyer I received only showed 0.9% APR on the 2008 M3 Sedan or Convertible, and 1.9% APR for the M3 Coupe.
The deals are just getting better and better!
greenxeyezz
10-14-2008, 10:12 PM
it should only get better for us buyers!
SYCO GT
10-14-2008, 10:16 PM
I've heard that BMW Corporate might re-allocate M3 production/supply to more profitable markets than the US. Plus they are redesigning it for 2009, first time I think they touched an M midstream, but I could be wrong. So, maybe they are truly just trying to clear out 2008 inventory. I can't see it getting much better than 0.9% financing. Of course, the only thing remaining is straight price discounts...Time will tell. But this seems like a fairly tempting deal.
Laidback
10-14-2008, 11:48 PM
Wow BMW is really pushing their stuff out, redesigning the M3 midstream is really surprising if it really happens...there will be a dinner with some of the BMW NA guys and i'll ask them about this and maybe they can enlighten us on what BMW will bring in 09'...I've heard that BMW Corporate might re-allocate M3 production/supply to more profitable markets than the US. Plus they are redesigning it for 2009, first time I think they touched an M midstream, but I could be wrong. So, maybe they are truly just trying to clear out 2008 inventory. I can't see it getting much better than 0.9% financing. Of course, the only thing remaining is straight price discounts...Time will tell. But this seems like a fairly tempting deal.
SYCO GT
10-15-2008, 08:39 AM
"redesign" is far too strong a word, I mean they are making some interior and exterior changes, nothing major, but there are some changes, as I understand it. See what you can find out. I will see if I can find anything additional.
SYCO GT
10-15-2008, 08:48 AM
Here's what I found:
"2009 Update
For the 2009 model year, BMW revised its M3 sedan -- after just one year on the market. Most notable is the change to the rear taillight design, featuring a 'notched' design and drastically smaller reverse lights.
Other changes include the addition of the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox with Drivelogic, plus a revised center console, active head restraints for whiplash protection, and a selection of new exterior colors."
Source: http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3-sedan.html
nismo skyline
10-15-2008, 08:51 AM
wow 0.9 and a day at bmw driving school
sales must be really slow.
i remember when the e46 m3 came out there was a waiting list and markup
Zeddy4Me
10-15-2008, 11:47 PM
Was at Crevier BMW tonight... they have plenty of M3 coupes and sedans there. Go see Kevin Garand there... $500 over invoice on any M3 sedan...
0.9%... $500 over invoice on ANY M3 sedan... simply amazing... tell him you saw it on the MFEST forums... he'll know...
:)
SYCO GT
10-16-2008, 07:08 PM
Hey Dave,
I dropped by Crevier at lunch to blow off some steam. Seems they have a ton of manual M3's in all configurations, but the M-DCT is hard to come by.
Did Kevin Garand indicate that he would give BOTH 0.9% and $500 over invoice on an M3 Sedan? Wow. That is hard to pass up...
Are you thinking about getting one? I want to, but the timing is not right for me. It's been truly awful with the real estate and financial markets for everyone.
Zeddy4Me
10-16-2008, 11:17 PM
Yeah, actually been to several dealers everyday this week... Yes to answer your first question... .9% and $500 over invoice. There are NO DCT's around town...only on several coupes...
Did you talk to Kevin? Cool guy...
I've actually narrowed mine down to 2 coupes, DCT. Space gray or Jet black...
Awesome deals, but even better on sedans/6 speed...
Pick your poision!! hahaha
Yeah, I feel you bro... real estate market aint' so hot right now, commercial is a bit better I think, but lending has been VERY tight, although with the Feds infusing $$ into banks for credit to be given out, still pretty tight...
I just helped my sister and a good friend pick up a 750i and and X5 tonight... several more deals I am helping out with. Let me know, have awesome deals at Shelly BMW too!!:)
SYCO GT
10-16-2008, 11:56 PM
6 Speed Sedan would be a sweet ride...
I haven't talked to Kevin yet. I talked with Judy Ray, we bought our X5 from her at Crevier, a real enthusiast, she's a driving instructor.
She did a locate and there is only one M3 Sedan with DCT in California right now it appears.
Thanks for the info! I hope I can do something with it, but I'll probably miss this round.
t3stman
10-17-2008, 08:37 AM
I wonder how long this deal will be around for. Damn, the market really suck and it's affecting stocks as well. I want my stocks to go up so i can sell and finish up my home improvement and mods :laughhard:
///NEM3SES
10-17-2008, 09:02 AM
Morning guys, I couldn't help but wonder if this is also a reason M3 sales r down?:
08 M3 cheapest on autotrader $49885
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=248365284&dealer_id=52741409&car_year=2008&num_records=25&model=M3&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2008&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=500&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=BMW&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&position=top&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=93268&advanced=&end_year=2009&transmission=&doors=&max_price=60000&cardist=215
06 M5 cheapest on autotrader $46995
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=252624729&dealer_id=7018803&car_year=2006&num_records=25&model=M5&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2006&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=500&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=BMW&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&position=top&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=93268&advanced=&end_year=2009&transmission=&doors=&max_price=60000&cardist=442
I mean I know the M3 is 2 years newer and 22K less miles but I personally would still take the M5>M3 in this case!!
SYCO GT
10-17-2008, 09:38 AM
It's definitely a good point Nem3ses, and I think a legitimate reason. Two different cars, but the e60 M5 seems like a really good buy on the used market.
The 3 series has always been a favorite, since they are smaller and lighter, I get a stronger sense of the road and feedback. Handling nirvana.
But the M5 tends to be a lot more practical...And who can deny the beast of an engine in the M5.
I've often bought used and prefer to do so, find a car in perfect condition, and have someone else take the depreciation hit. Plus you get more car for the money when you compare 2-3 years old versus new. Although you can miss out on technology and developments.
Nothing like a brand new car though, when you want to treat yourself.
mrtm2004
10-17-2008, 10:31 AM
Don't be suprised if I'm in a E90 M3 sedan very soon...decided to sell the E46 M3 vert & my Hemi Rubicon Wrangler to consolidate cars because a sedan for me is more practical with Emma now.
I'm actually in Scottsdale, AZ right now & will be for at least 2 weeks & have been to N. Scottsdale BMW. That is where I've bought all my BMWs from other than the X5. They have told me that I will be not be paying over MSRP if I decide to get the M3 Sedan. I can find out if they will do that for friends I refer to them! That M3 Sedan with DCT is probably the one at Sterling BMW...Jerez Black with Bambo Brown interior
///NEM3SES
10-17-2008, 11:13 AM
It's definitely a good point Nem3ses, and I think a legitimate reason. Two different cars, but the e60 M5 seems like a really good buy on the used market.
The 3 series has always been a favorite, since they are smaller and lighter, I get a stronger sense of the road and feedback. Handling nirvana.
But the M5 tends to be a lot more practical...And who can deny the beast of an engine in the M5.
I've often bought used and prefer to do so, find a car in perfect condition, and have someone else take the depreciation hit. Plus you get more car for the money when you compare 2-3 years old versus new. Although you can miss out on technology and developments.
Nothing like a brand new car though, when you want to treat yourself.
Couldn't have put it better myself, I just refuse to take depreciation hits! I mean I know eventually all will depreciate but that instant fall in those first few years is something I'd rather avoid..
As far as brand new...maybe when I make enough money that I don't care the price...even then It will bother me lol... no matter how much money I make Ill always be a bargain shopper...
SYCO GT
10-17-2008, 12:07 PM
Don't be suprised if I'm in a E90 M3 sedan very soon...decided to sell the E46 M3 vert & my Hemi Rubicon Wrangler to consolidate cars because a sedan for me is more practical with Emma now.
I'm actually in Scottsdale, AZ right now & will be for at least 2 weeks & have been to N. Scottsdale BMW. That is where I've bought all my BMWs from other than the X5. They have told me that I will be not be paying over MSRP if I decide to get the M3 Sedan. I can find out if they will do that for friends I refer to them! That M3 Sedan with DCT is probably the one at Sterling BMW...Jerez Black with Bambo Brown interior
You better pay under MSRP for an M3 Sedan. See Zeddy's posts in this thread.
Hmmm...Crevier BMW didn't mention Sterling's M3 Sedan with DCT, I watched her do the locate. Maybe it slipped under the radar. The one located was a Sparkling Graphite Metallic, no packages, so MSRP was $63,875 with destination charge and gas guzzler tax. I didn't bother to negotiate, since I am not ready to make the purchase.
I'm considering consolidating my LR3 and Dinan Mini Cooper S into the sedan. But I don't think I can do it just now, plus the LR3 is great for work.
mrtm2004
10-17-2008, 04:16 PM
Hmmm...Crevier BMW didn't mention Sterling's M3 Sedan with DCT, I watched her do the locate
Well it could be because it was still on a ship when I saw Chris Lorentzen about 3 weeks ago.
I really didn't see Zeddy4me's post since I'm checking out the site from my Blackberry here in AZ. But I'll go back & check it out!
I really HATE that I'm gonna sell the Jeep, but it's time to do the responible thing in this horrible ecomomy!
My other considerations are a CPO M5 or MB S*** AMG
EDIT:
I checked out Zeddy4me's post again & thought I read right...N Scottsdale BMW is gonna sell to me for under MSRP but I know Zeddy4me's Shelly BMW might possibly fair better but need to talk to him first.
BMW-PRINCE
10-17-2008, 05:43 PM
Well it could be because it was still on a ship when I saw Chris Lorentzen about 3 weeks ago.
I really didn't see Zeddy4me's post since I'm checking out the site from my Blackberry here in AZ. But I'll go back & check it out!
I really HATE that I'm gonna sell the Jeep, but it's time to do the responible thing in this horrible ecomomy!
My other considerations are a CPO M5 or MB S*** AMG
EDIT:
I checked out Zeddy4me's post again & thought I read right...N Scottsdale BMW is gonna sell to me for under MSRP but I know Zeddy4me's Shelly BMW might possibly fair better but need to talk to him first.
What M3 are you guys looking for? I got an awesome deal on my M3. I got it for under MSRP with lots of free goodies and it was the 1ST DCT ever received at the dealer. We bought a few cars from them so the dealer hooks us up.
Zeddy4Me
10-17-2008, 06:20 PM
hey guys, update!! I'm able to get INVOICE on the sedan w/ 6 speed. The 0.9% financing is for everyone.... from what I know, regardless of FICO score you WILL get the 0.9% financing... every and ALL walks of life qualify right now. THEY NEED TO UNLOAD ASAP!!:D
WHERES that Sedan? Sterling? thats where I got my ZM coupe... Marshall, might have to jump on it, hehehe!! If you don't, I might... hahha...:p
Gosh, this weekend is going to be Sunny and beautiful... M3... ;)
Laidback
10-17-2008, 06:23 PM
Daaamn temptinghey guys, update!! I'm able to get INVOICE on the sedan w/ 6 speed. The 0.9% financing is for everyone.... from what I know, regardless of FICO score you WILL get the 0.9% financing... every and ALL walks of life qualify right now. THEY NEED TO UNLOAD ASAP!!:D
WHERES that Sedan? Sterling? thats where I got my ZM coupe... Marshall, might have to jump on it, hehehe!! If you don't, I might... hahha...:p
Gosh, this weekend is going to be Sunny and beautiful... M3... ;)
mrtm2004
10-17-2008, 06:59 PM
Well I spoke to Zeddy4me earlier to clearify me jumbled brain, lol! I guess being up all night with a baby can do that!
So I'm gonna look into getting these numbers matched at N Scottsdale BMW or go MB :O
SYCO GT
10-17-2008, 07:35 PM
Well I spoke to Zeddy4me earlier to clearify me jumbled brain, lol! I guess being up all night with a baby can do that!
So I'm gonna look into getting these numbers matched at N Scottsdale BMW or go MB :O
Awesome! I wish I could join in the group M3 sedan buy!
I will if I can make it work, but I think I am going to have to miss out on this.
Thanks for all the great info! Enjoy your rides!
SYCO GT
10-17-2008, 07:37 PM
hey guys, update!! I'm able to get INVOICE on the sedan w/ 6 speed. The 0.9% financing is for everyone.... from what I know, regardless of FICO score you WILL get the 0.9% financing... every and ALL walks of life qualify right now. THEY NEED TO UNLOAD ASAP!!:D
WHERES that Sedan? Sterling? thats where I got my ZM coupe... Marshall, might have to jump on it, hehehe!! If you don't, I might... hahha...:p
Gosh, this weekend is going to be Sunny and beautiful... M3... ;)
The M DCT Sedan that Crevier located was a "northern CA BMW dealer" they didn't tell me more than that and I have a printout but no dealer codes or anything.
It had beige interior. Options NDH3 (extended leather), 223 (Electronic Damping Control), 2MK (M DCT), 2MT (19inch), 4MZ (Anthracite Wood Trim)
Zeddy4Me
10-18-2008, 10:38 AM
Was at Sterling BMW last night and they located the ONLY sedan with DCT in Hawaii!!... Randy... you sure you don't want to jump all over this?? Marshall... let me know asap!!
By the way guys, I am working on getting ANY coupe & convertible at INVOICE... stay tuned
SYCO GT
10-18-2008, 01:34 PM
Was at Sterling BMW last night and they located the ONLY sedan with DCT in Hawaii!!... Randy... you sure you don't want to jump all over this?? Marshall... let me know asap!!
By the way guys, I am working on getting ANY coupe & convertible at INVOICE... stay tuned
Thanks much Dave for the intel. I'm sidelined for now, but hope to get back in the game possibly in 4 months or less.
Go for it Marshall!
Zeddy4Me
10-18-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm sure theywill have deals soon enough... besides, you have the SICK GT!!
mrtm2004
10-18-2008, 03:08 PM
Thanks much Dave for the intel. I'm sidelined for now, but hope to get back in the game possibly in 4 months or less.
Go for it Marshall!
Wish I could right now but still in thwe middle of selling the Vert & still have to sell my Jeep first...also dealing with some family issues in AZ that takes priority to buying a car!
dmerk1978
10-19-2008, 12:14 AM
i buy fleet from south bay bmw, i was also looking for dct, seems there's none to be found the fleet manger said there was some sort of mechanical issues with them and they have already cut back production on all 09's.
so i walked out he door with a 08 sedan white with red interior (which was also impossible to find) and since i'm an existing bmw financial customer, they waived security deposit(on a lease) and i'm paying 755 per month with 1350 down...it was a deal i couldn't pass up, i go trough cars pretty quick so i lease often...by the way its a 6 speed and sticker price was $66,000
Laidback
10-19-2008, 01:30 AM
Very tempting and smokin' deal...congrats:)i buy fleet from south bay bmw, i was also looking for dct, seems there's none to be found the fleet manger said there was some sort of mechanical issues with them and they have already cut back production on all 09's.
so i walked out he door with a 08 sedan white with red interior (which was also impossible to find) and since i'm an existing bmw financial customer, they waived security deposit(on a lease) and i'm paying 755 per month with 1350 down...it was a deal i couldn't pass up, i go trough cars pretty quick so i lease often...by the way its a 6 speed and sticker price was $66,000
///NEM3SES
10-20-2008, 09:31 AM
Very tempting and smokin' deal...congrats:)
+1 $755/mo is doable, great lease deal!
BMW-PRINCE
10-20-2008, 09:43 AM
+1 $755/mo is doable, great lease deal!
wow 755 is unbelievable. Jump on it ;)
SYCO GT
10-20-2008, 11:29 AM
so i walked out he door with a 08 sedan white with red interior (which was also impossible to find) and since i'm an existing bmw financial customer, they waived security deposit(on a lease) and i'm paying 755 per month with 1350 down...it was a deal i couldn't pass up, i go trough cars pretty quick so i lease often...by the way its a 6 speed and sticker price was $66,000
How many months is the lease?
How many annual miles?
Thanks!
dmerk1978
10-20-2008, 07:10 PM
36 months, 10,000 miles i get fleet rates i'm not sure how big of a break that is though, i priced out a 09 550i and that was like 1000 plus but i could of got a 650 i '08 for 769.00 go figure the money factor is nutts, it dropped the day i ordered it so i got lucky, the new rates are good till end of october, any questions call ellen montgomery at south bay bmw/mini, i'm not trying to pimp her out but she's awesome and easy to work with, shes in the fleet dept., tell her dave mercado recommended her, thats me
SYCO GT
10-20-2008, 08:32 PM
Thanks Dave. Seems like a great deal for 36 months!!! I thought it might be some weird lease like 39 months or 48 months. That is crazy, the difference you found between a 550i and 650i. Enjoy your new M3! I bet your Denali is pretty sic too! Post some pics if you get a chance.
mrtm2004
10-21-2008, 04:35 PM
Jennie gave the green light to get the new M3 Sedan before this insane interest rate goes away & BEFORE we even get the vert & jeep sold!!!
Working with N. Scottsdale BMW on a Jerez Black/Bamboo Beige Sedan, 6 sp. with Premium (carbon leather trim), Tech, 19s, heated f seats, park distance, HD radio, Serius Sat, iPod & Enhanced sound.
Trying to get for invoice & finance it all & pay off car when I sell the other cars, they initially said they could do $3500 off MSRP...I'll keep you guys posted!
SunnyD
10-21-2008, 04:55 PM
Man...this crazy interest rate coupled with the free day at M driving school is making me seriously consider getting rid of the M Coupe for an e92 AW m3
Laidback
10-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Oh No:DMan...this crazy interest rate coupled with the free day at M driving school is making me seriously consider getting rid of the M Coupe for an e92 AW m3
SYCO GT
10-21-2008, 06:27 PM
Jennie gave the green light to get the new M3 Sedan before this insane interest rate goes away & BEFORE we even get the vert & jeep sold!!!
Nice Marshall! You gotta love a woman who understands both passion and justification.
Good luck with the deal!!!
mrtm2004
10-22-2008, 06:27 PM
Good luck with the deal!!!
Pulling the trigger as I type this...details to come!
mrtm2004
10-22-2008, 07:56 PM
OK I'm picking the car up tomorrow since it's getting the 97% UV protecting tint!
Here's the deal...they sold it to me for invoice!!!
$62,625 instead of the MSRP of $67,495...savings of $4870!!!
I got the 0.9% financing with a ballon loan & $15,000 down...$583.94/mnth! I will just owe a litte over $21k after 4th year. It would have been $925.15/mnth without down payment.
Best part is I got a serious buyer for the Vert!
SYCO GT
10-22-2008, 08:55 PM
Woohoo! Congrats Marshall. That is sweet!
mrtm2008
10-22-2008, 10:02 PM
Woohoo! Congrats Marshall. That is sweet!
Huge props to Zeddy4me for all the Edjimakating he helped me with getting this great deal!
I was laughing because Dave was telling me to tell them, $580/mnth or no deal. lol! I told him I was fine with paying an extra $3 month, hehe. I was literally on the phone with him through most of the negotiating!
batwife
10-22-2008, 10:14 PM
hey guys, update!! I'm able to get INVOICE on the sedan w/ 6 speed. The 0.9% financing is for everyone.... from what I know, regardless of FICO score you WILL get the 0.9% financing... every and ALL walks of life qualify right now. THEY NEED TO UNLOAD ASAP!!:D
OH PLEEEASE don't say that... strike it from the record! I don't need Batman seeing this. He'll go crazy I tell ya.. CRAZY! lol
batman
10-22-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh I already saw it! Now I just need to make more money, and I need my credit to miraculously become immaculate! lol
SYCO GT
10-26-2008, 08:43 PM
Can we see some pictures of the brand spanking new M3's that you are picking up?
mrtm2008
10-26-2008, 10:57 PM
Can we see some pictures of the brand spanking new M3's that you are picking up?
Sorry pics where kinda burried in another thread in the E90/92/93 section...so here ya go!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2054/2971905490_4744ae4084_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2972036383_1ec72b4fed_b.jpg
HARLEY
10-27-2008, 05:52 AM
if this wasnt a buyers market with real estate i would be all over a new m3 or m5
SYCO GT
10-27-2008, 09:52 AM
Looks really really nice Marshall. Great exterior color. Looks very classy. Thanks for the pics!
SYCO GT
10-27-2008, 09:54 AM
if this wasnt a buyers market with real estate i would be all over a new m3 or m5
And the stock market is no safe haven either...
Tough times...
Just a few more days left in probably the best deal time ever to date for an M3...
Orange fever
10-27-2008, 11:35 AM
im going to look in to this .....bye bye sokha`s car .....trade in....lolz....lolz
greenxeyezz
10-27-2008, 11:52 AM
what do you mean the market sucks??
such high volatility with extremely low priced stocks, at high % gainers, = $$$$$$$$$$$
SunnyD
10-27-2008, 02:02 PM
Haha you better be getting rid of her car for that Altima coupe she wants...you can get me the e92 m3 ;)
im going to look in to this .....bye bye sokha`s car .....trade in....lolz....lolz
///NEM3SES
10-29-2008, 02:41 PM
for those with $$$ the market is great right now, as is the deal on the new M3....
wish i was one of those people lol!!
SYCO GT
10-29-2008, 02:51 PM
what do you mean the market sucks??
such high volatility with extremely low priced stocks, at high % gainers, = $$$$$$$$$$$
Yup, those people that have the cash and cajones to dive in now, in the right companies, should quite possibly be very pleased 3-5 years from now...
If I had any extra disposable cash now, though, I'd likely be first financing an M3 Sedan with $0 down and getting the 0.9% for as long as the program would allow...
greenxeyezz
10-29-2008, 04:00 PM
3-5 years? no way, with its volatility, its days or hours, to make money. not WEEKS or years...
yes when its on the climb you invest for the long run, but its still up and down, buy and sell all day long!
CC jumped 35%!!!!!! =))) then dropped 22%....=))
gotta know when!
SYCO GT
10-29-2008, 05:14 PM
Heheh,
"it's time in the market, not timing the market..."
Enjoy the short term profits though, they are gratifying...Until it comes time to calculate all the short term taxes at regular income tax rates.
BlackOnBlack
01-11-2009, 01:43 AM
amazing! :drool:
Mattie
01-12-2009, 08:54 AM
ummm this sounds TEMPTING!
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