Hpf vs vf (list what you want)

[mfestprince]

HEY !!! WOULD YOU GUYS CHOOSE THE VF SUPERCHARGER OR THE HPF TURBO CHARGER
copy and paste the comment and put down what you would want in your ride!

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And Who do you think is gonna win the Drag???? HPF OR VF??? =) :)

[Bimmerlifestyle]

well i have a sedan... but if i had an M I would go for HPF FTW

cuz they due sick work

[DTM Tom]

i want vf stage 2.... !!!! ahhhh

[415Banker]

i want vf stage 2.... !!!! ahhhh

here we go again :D lol...

[DTM Tom]

hahha... shhhhh :shhh::shhh:

[MC28REPSOL]

i think it depends really on the type of driving you want to do and where you live.

if Drag Racing is your thing and it seems that's where most of the people are because talks always goes down to some short stretch of road where a Race is started and then the talk starts ... i Pwnd him to 130 etc... if this is your thing i would say go with HPF as no CF S/C will put down the Mid-Range a Turbo can (almost like running a 2 stroke).

if you like driving on twisty roads ... then i would say VF. the Vortech just puts out linear power and the cars just feels like you have a bigger engine then one that's FI.

another thing for the California Crowd is CARB Certification. this will get to be more and more important for us as each year CARB Rules will get tougher and tougher because they have a plan for 0% emissions by the year 2016.

VF is currently trying to get this done (CARB Cert.). i hope HPF will consider this move also.

i would like to see more people thinking about what type of power they want their car to produce and follow that route VS ... i have to have the most HP and be unhappy by the way their engine produces that HP. i think in the long run more people will be happier with that type of thinking. you'll be surprised to find that sometimes a lower HP car that's linear can be more fun to drive then a peaky High HP car.

[MC28REPSOL]

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And Who do you think is gonna win the Drag???? HPF OR VF??? =) :)

HPF would win do to the mid-range advantage of the turbo.

[Laidback]

This is a very good point Maddog...did you encounter any problems with your VF S/C? from stock to the S/C what really made the difference power wise and torque wise...when doing a s/c Dinan normally reinforce the subframe and what not (that is from the Dinan S/C S3 E39 M5)...with all that Power what measures did you do...



i think it depends really on the type of driving you want to do and where you live.

if Drag Racing is your thing and it seems that's where most of the people are because talks always goes down to some short stretch of road where a Race is started and then the talk starts ... i Pwnd him to 130 etc... if this is your thing i would say go with HPF as no CF S/C will put down the Mid-Range a Turbo can (almost like running a 2 stroke).

if you like driving on twisty roads ... then i would say VF. the Vortech just puts out linear power and the cars just feels like you have a bigger engine then one that's FI.

another thing for the California Crowd is CARB Certification. this will get to be more and more important for us as each year CARB Rules will get tougher and tougher because they have a plan for 0% emissions by the year 2016.

VF is currently trying to get this done (CARB Cert.). i hope HPF will consider this move also.

i would like to see more people thinking about what type of power they want their car to produce and follow that route VS ... i have to have the most HP and be unhappy by the way their engine produces that HP. i think in the long run more people will be happier with that type of thinking. you'll be surprised to find that sometimes a lower HP car that's linear can be more fun to drive then a peaky High HP car.

[MC28REPSOL]

This is a very good point Maddog...did you encounter any problems with your VF S/C? from stock to the S/C what really made the difference power wise and torque wise...when doing a s/c Dinan normally reinforce the subframe and what not (that is from the Dinan S/C S3 E39 M5)...with all that Power what measures did you do...

my car was put together with the intention of going SC and having no problems. so far i have 4,000+ miles on my VF Kit and i have had no problems what so ever. be it driving to Bimmer Fest (Santa Barbara) or MFest (Vegas) no issues. i can say i'm totally happy with my kit and i'm not afraid to drive it anywhere ... yes, even cross country. ehhh, who am i kidding i'll never do that ... :lolhit: but the point is i could if i wanted to.


to date i have the following mods:

VF Engineering: S54 Super Charger System (400+ RWHP)
Randy Forbes: Rear End Sub Frame Kit
Ground Control: Coil Overs
Rotora: 6 Piston Big Brake Kit
Dinan: Exhaust (Custom piping to clear the duel ear diff cover)
UUC: Lt Flywheel, M5 (Kevlar) Clutch & Pressure plate, short shifter, shear rod and shift knob.
Rims: BBS RS-GT's (F) 19x8.5 & (R) 19x10

this is just a list of the performance mods .... lol, there are much more but these are the things that make it go and stop :rolleyes:

[DTM Tom]

ill be joinin the club soon.. very soon i hope.. :D

[Laidback]

I had a meeting at VF today and I saw a kick ass white M3 with 20 inch wheels (gold centers) being meticulously worked on...I wonder if he is from Mfest:rolleyes:ill be joinin the club soon.. very soon i hope.. :D

[greenxeyezz]

How much longer tom!?!?

[nismo skyline]

How much longer tom!?!?

tommorow afternoon :D

[Orange fever]

How much longer tom!?!?

it takes about 4-5 days ....so i think its going to be done on friday ...

[Orange fever]

wooooooooooow
tom`s car dyno @ 467 Vfe stg 2 smg

[415Banker]

wooooooooooow
tom`s car dyno @ 467 Vfe stg 2 smg

congrats tom!!!!! u finally got it done!!! woohoo! are we seeing the beast in action pretty soon??? =)

[yellowfever]

i think it depends really on the type of driving you want to do and where you live.

if Drag Racing is your thing and it seems that's where most of the people are because talks always goes down to some short stretch of road where a Race is started and then the talk starts ... i Pwnd him to 130 etc... if this is your thing i would say go with HPF as no CF S/C will put down the Mid-Range a Turbo can (almost like running a 2 stroke).

if you like driving on twisty roads ... then i would say VF. the Vortech just puts out linear power and the cars just feels like you have a bigger engine then one that's FI.

another thing for the California Crowd is CARB Certification. this will get to be more and more important for us as each year CARB Rules will get tougher and tougher because they have a plan for 0% emissions by the year 2016.

VF is currently trying to get this done (CARB Cert.). i hope HPF will consider this move also.

i would like to see more people thinking about what type of power they want their car to produce and follow that route VS ... i have to have the most HP and be unhappy by the way their engine produces that HP. i think in the long run more people will be happier with that type of thinking. you'll be surprised to find that sometimes a lower HP car that's linear can be more fun to drive then a peaky High HP car.

Bulleyez,:thumbsup2: very well put

[yellowfever]

my car was put together with the intention of going SC and having no problems. so far i have 4,000+ miles on my VF Kit and i have had no problems what so ever. be it driving to Bimmer Fest (Santa Barbara) or MFest (Vegas) no issues. i can say i'm totally happy with my kit and i'm not afraid to drive it anywhere ... yes, even cross country. ehhh, who am i kidding i'll never do that ... :lolhit: but the point is i could if i wanted to.


to date i have the following mods:

VF Engineering: S54 Super Charger System (400+ RWHP)
Randy Forbes: Rear End Sub Frame Kit
Ground Control: Coil Overs
Rotora: 6 Piston Big Brake Kit
Dinan: Exhaust (Custom piping to clear the duel ear diff cover)
UUC: Lt Flywheel, M5 (Kevlar) Clutch & Pressure plate, short shifter, shear rod and shift knob.
Rims: BBS RS-GT's (F) 19x8.5 & (R) 19x10

this is just a list of the performance mods .... lol, there are much more but these are the things that make it go and stop :rolleyes:


yeah what he said:thumbsup2: vf all the baby:goldcup: I can say that im vf's 2nd or third kit when vf release the bomb on us.

[MFIZZLENYC]

Well I would buy either but they both dont make a blower kit for my s62

[HPFMTRE]

HPF is on a whole different level with performance and quality not to mention when you get a HPF kit you feel like your part of a family,having personal conversations with the owner of a major company such as HPF really says a lot about them...this thread should be VF or AA...then id say VF all the way! ive seen really good numbers with the VF kits and many happy costumers...any doughters of the HPF kit,well someone lend them a HPF car for ONE day and their opinion would change..taking my car thru Malibu canyon every sunday basicly and having angeles crest 10 minutes from my house the car does just fine with no lag or any feeling of lose of power like mentioned above with the pros of having a SC thru the "twisties"..of course you really dont need 630rwhp thru tight turns so of course you need to be careful to swing the rear end around in the blink of an eye using one of the lower 4 maps on HPFs tune really works out great...its good to have the option with the flick of a switch....

the other night at the walnut meet some kid comes up to me with a probly 20 year old beemer with 90hp all cocky for some reason and says to me "ill show you how useless 600hp is in the turns" it was pretty hilarious gave all my friends a good laugh up untill.. well we are still laughing at how stupid this guy was hahaha. ANYWAY the point is with the HPF kit you have the option of having 430rwhp all the way up to 630rwhp with one switch which is key for tight corners/tracks. :) :) :)

NO question about it HPF and VF are the two top FI companies for the BMW world and when VF comes out with a FI e92 M3 then everyone better watch out haha.

[Laidback]

HPFMTRE

Nice review there between VF and HPF... I wonder were AA, Dinan and ESS stands on their kits...I would like to hear more feedback:)

[yellowfever]

quality, reliability,cutomer service, very clean looking kit, and power. just my opinion as a very satisfied customer.

[MC28REPSOL]

..taking my car thru Malibu canyon every sunday basicly and having angeles crest 10 minutes from my house the car does just fine with no lag or any feeling of lose of power like mentioned above with the pros of having a SC thru the "twisties"..of course you really dont need 630rwhp thru tight turns so of course you need to be careful to swing the rear end around in the blink of an eye using one of the lower 4 maps on HPFs tune really works out great...its good to have the option with the flick of a switch....

the other night at the walnut meet some kid comes up to me with a probly 20 year old beemer with 90hp all cocky for some reason and says to me "ill show you how useless 600hp is in the turns" it was pretty hilarious gave all my friends a good laugh up untill.. well we are still laughing at how stupid this guy was hahaha. ANYWAY the point is with the HPF kit you have the option of having 430rwhp all the way up to 630rwhp with one switch which is key for tight corners/tracks. :) :) :)

well, when i speak of a Centrifugal S/C vs Turbo this is leaning toward the masses (average joe) and it's true.

just because someone can drive a High HP Turbo in the Twisties (they do it all the time on the track) doesn't mean the average joe can do the same.

anyone who says a High HP Turbo car is just as easy to drive as a High HP Centrifugal S/C on a twisty road .... is in a dream world.

it's just like my two stroke (Honda MC28) keep it on the boil and it's fun to ride with no power spikes. drop below it and not so fun. it takes a lot of concentration to ride it right. ride it like a four stroke and you'll hate it. in fact most everyone that rides it (four stroke riders) hate it ... they complain that the power comes on at the most inopportune time (while leaned over in a turn) but everyone loves it on a straight line ... roll the throttle on around 3,000rpm ..... and it just pulls ok. then at 6,000 - 6,500 "BANG" the front wheel claws for the sky and it's just like someone hit you with a baseball bat! sound familiar Turbo guys?

[myke951]

well, when i speak of a Centrifugal S/C vs Turbo this is leaning toward the masses (average joe) and it's true.

just because someone can drive a High HP Turbo in the Twisties (they do it all the time on the track) doesn't mean the average joe can do the same.

anyone who says a High HP Turbo car is just as easy to drive as a High HP Centrifugal S/C on a twisty road .... is in a dream world.

it's just like my two stroke (Honda MC28) keep it on the boil and it's fun to ride with no power spikes. drop below it and not so fun. it takes a lot of concentration to ride it right. ride it like a four stroke and you'll hate it. in fact most everyone that rides it (four stroke riders) hate it ... they complain that the power comes on at the most inopportune time (while leaned over in a turn) but everyone loves it on a straight line ... roll the throttle on around 3,000rpm ..... and it just pulls ok. then at 6,000 - 6,500 "BANG" the front wheel claws for the sky and it's just like someone hit you with a baseball bat! sound familiar Turbo guys?

Sounds like my 944 turbo... lol... it was decent power until 3500rpm and then BAM!!! Like the high output 2.6+ 4 banger turned into a Viper! haha