HPF professionalism won my business...

[Silver E46 M3]

I have all intentions on keeping this thread civil and what not so for the few that have the "i need to learn how to express myself" issues please feel free to read but don't be negative on my thread....I posted my other thread to get suggestions from people not start world war 3 on the M3Forum. I appreciate all that provided good information and were honest about what it was they liked and disliked about their kits. Rather than people trying to sell why their kit is the best.

My gripe comes from when I literally had the idea to ask for suggestions on what people thought about their VF kits as I was thinking about going that route as of late last week. I know Derek and he introduced me to the guys at HPF awhile ago but the prices are out of my league. I know Derek and anyone who talks to that man knows he is unhappy with VF. There is no secret there.

As for why I was thinking VF is that I don't know anyone personally with the AA kits except a couple dudes who are happy with their e36 cars. VF has hundreds of kits out there and yes I have heard of their issues but from a very select few people. It appeared to me that majority were happy and that is what I was looking for.

Now i am in no way shape or form a computer genius but a moderator on M3forums...specifically JOHN T.....singled me out and accused me of many things. I mentioned one post about how I think the idle surging would be annoying and he threatened me by sending me an infraction, closing my thread then banning me forever from their forum. So my question is now why? Am I not allowed to ask for suggestions? Am I not allowed to state that I would probably not like a certain kit because it idles like **** and was proved on a video? I was more than polite on that forum especially compared to some people. I have several PM's from people who either have had or currently have a VF kit on their car. Some people experience no problems but I would say the other 90% of those people do or did have problems and wanted to tell me about them. I just wish that they would have posted on my thread rather than PM me about them so everyone knows what is being said.

So let me get back to the moderator. Nik at VF thinks that he is invisible and before this week I didn't even know who he was other than the "VF" guy. I learned that Nik contacted John T the moderator at M3forums and told him that I was the same person as my roommate Parker and I was also Derek. Yes we all have M3's but that's about where the similarities cease. Instead of John T asking me about why there are 3 people in the same city with M3's, hard to believe I know , but rather he says I'm being malicious and fraudulently misrepresenting on the forums. John T gets called out for his mistake by several other members on that forum and I get banned. Today when I tried to log in over on the other forum I get this message:

You have been banned for the following reason:
Fraudulent misrepresentation

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

So all I have to say is WOW. I don't post very often because I feel like what I have to say really isn't that important but it appears to me that VF is juggling M3forums balls and VF must be giving them extremely happy endings to have probably the calmest dude on their forum get banned because he asked for an opinion and suggestions.

By the way in case anyone cares...I drove my car down to HPF today and dropped it off. Pretty much just to rub it in VF's face that if you have your buddies push me or others away, I will spend twice as much to not only have some professionalism but outstanding customer service.

[sammyrusso]

Never heard of any bad blood between them, but congrats on your new upgrade! never dealt with them but from what i see and hear they seem to have good customer service...and their work is top notch

[Laidback]

Don't know what went down but VF and HPF are both great companies and as far as the f/i kit it all boils down to personal preference on which kit your gonna go for...Come down to MFest IV and invite your friends over, it'll be fun:)

[myke951]

sorry to hear that... VF is a board sponsor maybe they can chime in...

[E46transforM3r]

I have all intentions on keeping this thread civil and what not so for the few that have the "i need to learn how to express myself" issues please feel free to read but don't be negative on my thread....I posted my other thread to get suggestions from people not start world war 3 on the M3Forum. I appreciate all that provided good information and were honest about what it was they liked and disliked about their kits. Rather than people trying to sell why their kit is the best.

My gripe comes from when I literally had the idea to ask for suggestions on what people thought about their VF kits as I was thinking about going that route as of late last week. I know Derek and he introduced me to the guys at HPF awhile ago but the prices are out of my league. I know Derek and anyone who talks to that man knows he is unhappy with VF. There is no secret there.

As for why I was thinking VF is that I don't know anyone personally with the AA kits except a couple dudes who are happy with their e36 cars. VF has hundreds of kits out there and yes I have heard of their issues but from a very select few people. It appeared to me that majority were happy and that is what I was looking for.

Now i am in no way shape or form a computer genius but a moderator on M3forums...specifically JOHN T.....singled me out and accused me of many things. I mentioned one post about how I think the idle surging would be annoying and he threatened me by sending me an infraction, closing my thread then banning me forever from their forum. So my question is now why? Am I not allowed to ask for suggestions? Am I not allowed to state that I would probably not like a certain kit because it idles like **** and was proved on a video? I was more than polite on that forum especially compared to some people. I have several PM's from people who either have had or currently have a VF kit on their car. Some people experience no problems but I would say the other 90% of those people do or did have problems and wanted to tell me about them. I just wish that they would have posted on my thread rather than PM me about them so everyone knows what is being said.

So let me get back to the moderator. Nik at VF thinks that he is invisible and before this week I didn't even know who he was other than the "VF" guy. I learned that Nik contacted John T the moderator at M3forums and told him that I was the same person as my roommate Parker and I was also Derek. Yes we all have M3's but that's about where the similarities cease. Instead of John T asking me about why there are 3 people in the same city with M3's, hard to believe I know , but rather he says I'm being malicious and fraudulently misrepresenting on the forums. John T gets called out for his mistake by several other members on that forum and I get banned. Today when I tried to log in over on the other forum I get this message:

You have been banned for the following reason:
Fraudulent misrepresentation

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

So all I have to say is WOW. I don't post very often because I feel like what I have to say really isn't that important but it appears to me that VF is juggling M3forums balls and VF must be giving them extremely happy endings to have probably the calmest dude on their forum get banned because he asked for an opinion and suggestions.

By the way in case anyone cares...I drove my car down to HPF today and dropped it off. Pretty much just to rub it in VF's face that if you have your buddies push me or others away, I will spend twice as much to not only have some professionalism but outstanding customer service.

here at MFEST we encourage sharing/posting of comments, questions and opinions while observing common decency and utmost respect for one another at all times... hopefully the "matter" you got caught up with can be resolved immediately:D

[E46transforM3r]

that said... welcome to MFEST!!!

[remix405]

:agree:
here at MFEST we encourage sharing/posting of comments, questions and opinions while observing common decency and utmost respect for one another at all times... hopefully the "matter" you got caught up with can be resolved immediately:D

[415Banker]

here at MFEST we encourage sharing/posting of comments, questions and opinions while observing common decency and utmost respect for one another at all times... hopefully the "matter" you got caught up with can be resolved immediately:D

well said eric!!!

[Mr. Tycoon]

Really HPF fans stop the highschool girl drama. Chris has been crying about hurt feelings for years now.

Why dont' they just focus on building great mods and let your product speak for itself. Thats how grown up play.

[///M*hershey]

+1^^^

I've noticed that from other HPF guys in other forums also. I don't understand all the worthless drama. Let's keep it grown in here.

Congrats on your kit, btw.

[ooibhuskyoo]

How come you haven't posted any more OP? :(

[erock90]

Welcome to Mfest. Why would you go out of your league to prove a point to someone that doesnt know you?

[DLSJ5]

From what the mod said, the IP addresses matched this is why John T did what he did, while I don't believe they are the same person, I do believe the OP NEVER planned on going VF, but suggested that he was deciding between the two, the thread was a bit fishy IMO, I feel it was most likely another thread intended to bash, and sure it enough it turned into that.

While HPF does take care of their customers, and they do make a very good kit, they do slant and mislead people about other kits at times. Guess they shrug it off as competitive marketing, don't know, initially it was AA, but when AA joined them that stopped, but more than ever they love to make VF look bad and in some ways with false info, but it has become a high school drama, and I agree with what someone said here, if HPF would focus more on their kit and how well it does, they'd sell more kits.

[canikickit?]

Seriously ladies. Lift up your skirts and air out your Vienna sausage sized dicks. I've followed this entire dramalogue on this and other forums and it's sad and disheartening how a guy could who could produce so much hp could go on to produce the same amount of drama. Grow up and and be confident! On another note, what would possess another man to cheer lead for another.

[Silver E46 M3]

Seriously ladies. Lift up your skirts and air out your Vienna sausage sized dicks. I've followed this entire dramalogue on this and other forums and it's sad and disheartening how a guy could who could produce so much hp could go on to produce the same amount of drama. Grow up and and be confident! On another note, what would possess another man to cheer lead for another.

Funnny and Im some how a drama queen....right:rolleyes: Exactly what response were you looking for when you posted this?

I would like to attend Mfest this year as it would be the first big gathering Ive ever been to with my car but I have a feeling it is just going to be a bunch of haters who think they have something to prove. Im just a car enthusiast who enjoys the car scene. Its cool people like you that make it more annoying rather than enjoyable.

E46transform3r....my apologies and thanks for the welcome. Hope to make friends not enemies on your site. ;)

[canikickit?]

You are a drama queen.

Talking about the great experience and service you had with HPF is fine but NO one here wants to read about why you were banned at another forum nor do we want to hear your problems with NIK and what was supposedly said to a moderator. If you were banned and you were looking for somewhere new to chat then this is definitely the place but it seems rather pointless to bring your past with you. Then again...history has a funny way of repeating itself. In all honesty, if you're looking for support, help, or friends then you're more than welcome to the forum but if you're looking to drag others in the mud then go elsewhere. No viejitas!

Also.....

1. You should attend Mfest because it's a great show.
2. The only haters that "might" be there are guys like you. So please come but leave th bad attitude at home.
3. I'm not cool. I'm just a hillbillly with a mullet and a pygmy slave for sale.

Other than that. WELCOME TO M-FEST FORUMS!!

[E46transforM3r]

Funnny and Im some how a drama queen....right:rolleyes: Exactly what response were you looking for when you posted this?

I would like to attend Mfest this year as it would be the first big gathering Ive ever been to with my car but I have a feeling it is just going to be a bunch of haters who think they have something to prove. Im just a car enthusiast who enjoys the car scene. Its cool people like you that make it more annoying rather than enjoyable.

E46transform3r....my apologies and thanks for the welcome. Hope to make friends not enemies on your site. ;)

You are a drama queen.

Talking about the great experience and service you had with HPF is fine but NO one here wants to read about why you were banned at another forum nor do we want to hear your problems with NIK and what was supposedly said to a moderator. If you were banned and you were looking for somewhere new to chat then this is definitely the place but it seems rather pointless to bring your past with you. Then again...history has a funny way of repeating itself. In all honesty, if you're looking for support, help, or friends then you're more than welcome to the forum but if you're looking to drag others in the mud then go elsewhere. No viejitas!

Also.....

1. You should attend Mfest because it's a great show.
2. The only haters that "might" be there are guys like you. So please come but leave th bad attitude at home.
3. I'm not cool. I'm just a hillbillly with a mullet and a pygmy slave for sale.

Other than that. WELCOME TO M-FEST FORUMS!!

okay fellas... all has been said and done... everything is water under the bridge now so lets keep it that way, just move on, and enjoy each others company... after all, we're pretty much "all on the same boat". Hope to see and meet you both at MFEST IV and lets all have a great time!!!

[Laidback]

Silver e46 and canikickit? Welcome to the mfest fam:goldcup: There are no haters but all bradah's and sister's here and a one big Mfest fam!, let's move on to bigger and better things and keep the Camaraderie alive! First beer is on me at mfest IV, the rest you guys have to pay:D

[canikickit?]

OK. I'll be cool and I'll give "SilverE46M3" a big hug when I see him. As for Laidback offering me a beer I'll pass. Beer makes me ****.

[Silver E46 M3]

Looking forward to the "good" times...Mfest looks and sounds like it will be awesome. See ya guys there....;)