PencilGeek
01-21-2010, 01:44 PM
Recent History
There's probably no way to write this story without somebody getting butt hurt and feeling like they're being thrown under the bus. The purpose of telling this story is neither: I'm not intending to hurt anybody's feelings, and I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus. I've always been completely honest with the readers here, and so as I unfold and tell this story, I will give as many details as I can. There are certain details that I will still keep secret and will not disclose because disclosing them would do more harm than good. So the purpose is to tell the story honestly and give as much details as necessary for everybody to understand the project -- and in doing so, some details will still be kept secret.
Many of you may have seen the threads on MBForum and M3Post where I was discussing the Mojave Mile. You may have seen the typical naysayers and doubters add their $0.02. You may have also noticed I appeared a bit confident in my convictions. There was good reason for it: we plan to put a supercharger on the stroker, and attempt a very high speed run at the standing (Mojave, Texas) and flying mile (Bonneville).
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342557
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/334043-what-happened-c63-thread.html
You may have also noticed that my car is at ESS getting "tuned" and that we planned for 175MPH in the Texas Mile. 175MPH is a perfect cover story for the NA stroker M3 -- because that's probably exactly how it would perform. But it was a lie. The goal was never 175MPH, the real goal is 200!
Past History
Since my early 20's (not the 1920's as some of you may think), I wanted to take a car to Bonneville and set a class record. At the time, I worked at Drake Engineering -- 26-time Indy-500 winning company. We built everything from full blown racing engines, to our own turbo kits (the same turbo kit that made Callaway Turbos famous) and our own 16V racing heads for the VW Rabbit/Golf. At that time, I set my sights on setting a Bonneville record in a 1600CC NA VW Rabbit. I recall the record was 154MPH in class, and I wanted to break it. I acquired the racing motor when one of our customers went bankrupt, but my dreams ended when my car was stolen. I've always wanted to give it a try, and recently I began thinking about it again. This time, there's no dream of breaking a class record -- because that would be impossible with what I have to work with.
Deciding to Supercharge the Stroker
Many of you have been able to read through the lines and know something was wrong with the ECU tuning in the stroker. Instead of using the RD Sport ECU tune for the stroker, I went my own way with a custom tune. Afterwards, my car predominentely would cold start and enter limp mode -- even in the heat of summer; my car would occasionally stall while idling; and most embarassingly, my car would enter limp mode about one of every five times I would simply launch gradually from a dead stop. It was originally believed to be an idle valve problem, but after replacing $900 of idle valve parts we discovered nothing changed -- all of my problems were still there. That's when I programmed the ECU back to stock and discovered all of my problems went away. But this now left me with a bit of a dilema. I couldn't run the factory tune on the stroker, and I didn't want to give the same people a third chance at the tuning.
During the stroker tuning process, I had called ESS and asked if they'd be willing to tune the stroker. They knew the problems I was having and thought it would be a challenge to tune the stroker. They agreed and we worked out some business terms that would allow other stroker customers to have access to their tune. But instead of turning the car over to ESS, I decided to let Company-A "finish" the tuning process. I really felt comfortable with that decision because I was convinced I had an idle control valve problem, not a tuning problem (an assumption that later proved to be false). So after replacing all of the idle valve components, reflashing back to stock and discovering that my problems weren't solved, I knew I needed to call ESS and kind of beg for mercy. That's when I first got the idea of supercharging the stroker. But before calling, I wanted to do a bit of research.
Researching a Supercharger System
Before calling ESS, I ran some software simulations using CarTest to see what type of performance I could expect out of a supercharged stroker motor. CarTest already has a BMW M3 software model in it. Using that model as a baseline, I modified it by inputting my own stroker dyno charts (a feature supported by CarTest) and regenerating a set of speed test reports. Not surprisingly, it showed 175MPH in the standing mile. Next, I came up with an average weighting method to merge the ESS VT2-600 dyno charts with the stroker dyno charts to create a dyno chart that I was "hopeful" would represent the FI stroker motor. I played with all kinds of various final drive ratios to see if there was a magic bullet that would give me the best 1/4 mile, 60-130, standing mile, and flying mile results. It turns out, there was a magic bullet: placing the DCT 3.15 final drive in the stroker was the perfect ratio and actually gave me the fastest times for 1/4 mile, 60-130, standing and flying mile results. Here's a graph demonstrating the performance. Look at the 1/4 mile, 0-5280ft, and Bonneville speed projections.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=342961&stc=1&d=1264110508
http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=342962&stc=1&d=1264110508
Next, I contacted somebody who is an automotive expert and knows quite a bit about forced induction. I layed out the project proposal to him, and asked for his analysis of the various supercharger systems on the market. I never expected to get five or six pages of analysis in response. The response was so detailed, it even discussed the pros and cons of every intercooling system available and even at specific RPM bands. Then I called my former collegue from Drake Engineering (he built Mark Donahue's 1972 Indy-500 winning motor) and I threw the idea at him. His first response was "why in the F*CK would you screw up a $70000 BMW, go buy a $20000 sh*t box and do the same thing." But next he asked "who's blower are you using (Vortech V3), and what cooling system (air-water intercooler)." After answering those questions, he was very satisfied with my answers and changed his tune by saying "I can put you in contact with people who have done this before...but it sounds like you're on the right track."
Next up in the agenda: calling ESS to consumate the deal.
This may sound completely strange, but I really was looking for a face-saving way to get my ECU tuning fixed. ESS proved very successful with the GS car and I saw this as a sign that they could handle the ECU tuning of the stroker. I knew tuning the stroker was going to be expensive -- probably $3000 expensive. So at that point, I honestly figured I might as well spend the extra $10k and get the blower as well and be done with it. As it turns out, I discovered I'm not the only person who did the exact same thing. I think I'm actually the third person who restorted to adding a supercharger just to end their frustrations with a bad ECU tune. (No, not all of the same company...so don't ask.) So I called Roman and worked out a deal for a NA ECU tune and supercharger combo package.
I asked ESS to give me two separate configurations: 1) High boost race tuned for 100 octane gasoline. 2) Low boost, tuned for daily driving and 91 octane. At first we toyed with the idea of having two separate ECU's with two separate tunes. We may still do this as a plan-B. Currently Plan-A is to activate some secret sauce inside of the MSS60 ECU that the boys at ESS discovered. This might allow us to run both programs (high boots/octane and low boost/octane) simultaneously without the need for changing the ECU.
There's probably no way to write this story without somebody getting butt hurt and feeling like they're being thrown under the bus. The purpose of telling this story is neither: I'm not intending to hurt anybody's feelings, and I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus. I've always been completely honest with the readers here, and so as I unfold and tell this story, I will give as many details as I can. There are certain details that I will still keep secret and will not disclose because disclosing them would do more harm than good. So the purpose is to tell the story honestly and give as much details as necessary for everybody to understand the project -- and in doing so, some details will still be kept secret.
Many of you may have seen the threads on MBForum and M3Post where I was discussing the Mojave Mile. You may have seen the typical naysayers and doubters add their $0.02. You may have also noticed I appeared a bit confident in my convictions. There was good reason for it: we plan to put a supercharger on the stroker, and attempt a very high speed run at the standing (Mojave, Texas) and flying mile (Bonneville).
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342557
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w204/334043-what-happened-c63-thread.html
You may have also noticed that my car is at ESS getting "tuned" and that we planned for 175MPH in the Texas Mile. 175MPH is a perfect cover story for the NA stroker M3 -- because that's probably exactly how it would perform. But it was a lie. The goal was never 175MPH, the real goal is 200!
Past History
Since my early 20's (not the 1920's as some of you may think), I wanted to take a car to Bonneville and set a class record. At the time, I worked at Drake Engineering -- 26-time Indy-500 winning company. We built everything from full blown racing engines, to our own turbo kits (the same turbo kit that made Callaway Turbos famous) and our own 16V racing heads for the VW Rabbit/Golf. At that time, I set my sights on setting a Bonneville record in a 1600CC NA VW Rabbit. I recall the record was 154MPH in class, and I wanted to break it. I acquired the racing motor when one of our customers went bankrupt, but my dreams ended when my car was stolen. I've always wanted to give it a try, and recently I began thinking about it again. This time, there's no dream of breaking a class record -- because that would be impossible with what I have to work with.
Deciding to Supercharge the Stroker
Many of you have been able to read through the lines and know something was wrong with the ECU tuning in the stroker. Instead of using the RD Sport ECU tune for the stroker, I went my own way with a custom tune. Afterwards, my car predominentely would cold start and enter limp mode -- even in the heat of summer; my car would occasionally stall while idling; and most embarassingly, my car would enter limp mode about one of every five times I would simply launch gradually from a dead stop. It was originally believed to be an idle valve problem, but after replacing $900 of idle valve parts we discovered nothing changed -- all of my problems were still there. That's when I programmed the ECU back to stock and discovered all of my problems went away. But this now left me with a bit of a dilema. I couldn't run the factory tune on the stroker, and I didn't want to give the same people a third chance at the tuning.
During the stroker tuning process, I had called ESS and asked if they'd be willing to tune the stroker. They knew the problems I was having and thought it would be a challenge to tune the stroker. They agreed and we worked out some business terms that would allow other stroker customers to have access to their tune. But instead of turning the car over to ESS, I decided to let Company-A "finish" the tuning process. I really felt comfortable with that decision because I was convinced I had an idle control valve problem, not a tuning problem (an assumption that later proved to be false). So after replacing all of the idle valve components, reflashing back to stock and discovering that my problems weren't solved, I knew I needed to call ESS and kind of beg for mercy. That's when I first got the idea of supercharging the stroker. But before calling, I wanted to do a bit of research.
Researching a Supercharger System
Before calling ESS, I ran some software simulations using CarTest to see what type of performance I could expect out of a supercharged stroker motor. CarTest already has a BMW M3 software model in it. Using that model as a baseline, I modified it by inputting my own stroker dyno charts (a feature supported by CarTest) and regenerating a set of speed test reports. Not surprisingly, it showed 175MPH in the standing mile. Next, I came up with an average weighting method to merge the ESS VT2-600 dyno charts with the stroker dyno charts to create a dyno chart that I was "hopeful" would represent the FI stroker motor. I played with all kinds of various final drive ratios to see if there was a magic bullet that would give me the best 1/4 mile, 60-130, standing mile, and flying mile results. It turns out, there was a magic bullet: placing the DCT 3.15 final drive in the stroker was the perfect ratio and actually gave me the fastest times for 1/4 mile, 60-130, standing and flying mile results. Here's a graph demonstrating the performance. Look at the 1/4 mile, 0-5280ft, and Bonneville speed projections.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=342961&stc=1&d=1264110508
http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=342962&stc=1&d=1264110508
Next, I contacted somebody who is an automotive expert and knows quite a bit about forced induction. I layed out the project proposal to him, and asked for his analysis of the various supercharger systems on the market. I never expected to get five or six pages of analysis in response. The response was so detailed, it even discussed the pros and cons of every intercooling system available and even at specific RPM bands. Then I called my former collegue from Drake Engineering (he built Mark Donahue's 1972 Indy-500 winning motor) and I threw the idea at him. His first response was "why in the F*CK would you screw up a $70000 BMW, go buy a $20000 sh*t box and do the same thing." But next he asked "who's blower are you using (Vortech V3), and what cooling system (air-water intercooler)." After answering those questions, he was very satisfied with my answers and changed his tune by saying "I can put you in contact with people who have done this before...but it sounds like you're on the right track."
Next up in the agenda: calling ESS to consumate the deal.
This may sound completely strange, but I really was looking for a face-saving way to get my ECU tuning fixed. ESS proved very successful with the GS car and I saw this as a sign that they could handle the ECU tuning of the stroker. I knew tuning the stroker was going to be expensive -- probably $3000 expensive. So at that point, I honestly figured I might as well spend the extra $10k and get the blower as well and be done with it. As it turns out, I discovered I'm not the only person who did the exact same thing. I think I'm actually the third person who restorted to adding a supercharger just to end their frustrations with a bad ECU tune. (No, not all of the same company...so don't ask.) So I called Roman and worked out a deal for a NA ECU tune and supercharger combo package.
I asked ESS to give me two separate configurations: 1) High boost race tuned for 100 octane gasoline. 2) Low boost, tuned for daily driving and 91 octane. At first we toyed with the idea of having two separate ECU's with two separate tunes. We may still do this as a plan-B. Currently Plan-A is to activate some secret sauce inside of the MSS60 ECU that the boys at ESS discovered. This might allow us to run both programs (high boots/octane and low boost/octane) simultaneously without the need for changing the ECU.