2010 Mfest debut of my 2002 E46 M3 Convertible

[ccsykes]

My plan is to debut the car at Mfest this year, then hit as many shows thereafter. The car is currently in paint and body and is expected to be completed on, or before April 5th in time for Mfest.

My original thread on this project was started here (http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=275157) at M3forums.net.

Here is a video showing all the work done prior to entering paint and body.

YouTube- My E46 M3 Build

YouTube- E46 M3 VF Stage II Supersprint Part 2

Below are photos of the current paint and body progress.

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[ccsykes]

Interior coming together..

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[ccsykes]

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[GOLFFRR]

:eatpop:

[cullen61918]

nicely done, keep us up to date

[ccsykes]

nicely done, keep us up to date

Thanks.. should start shooting paint by Wednesday.

I'll probably have the only Kawasaki green M3 with a two tone tangerine/black leather interior on the planet lol..

[K3VIN]

Sounds very unique! Can't wait to see it bro!

[ccsykes]

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[Bimmer_Soul]

Cool. I'm excited to see the results!

[Laidback]

Just WoW!:eek: :hail:

[Orange fever]

OHdaammmmnnnnnn Kawasaki green M3

[ccsykes]

OHdaammmmnnnnnn Kawasaki green M3

Well, it's not really Kawasaki Green.. it is G12048.. or something like that lol..

It was just a blend number from Dupont, so in some ways, it is 100% unique. It was picked from a color spectrum chart.

[Orange fever]

Still nice =)

[ccsykes]

Still nice =)

Thanks.. I wanted to do something different. I know of only a couple of E46 M3's painted lime green. There is one CSL in Europe painted "Signal Green" and two other M3's with custom lime green metallic colors.

Other than that I don't know of any other ones. It should stick out at shows at any rate :D:thankyou: lol..

[E46transforM3r]

keep us informed of the progress... seems very promising!!!

[leletyM3]

Can't wait to see your car at Mfest!

[cullen61918]

Thanks.. should start shooting paint by Wednesday.

I'll probably have the only Kawasaki green M3 with a two tone tangerine/black leather interior on the planet lol..

definitely wild, lets see those pics...

[ccsykes]

definitely wild, lets see those pics...

More pics..

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[david @ eas]

Great progress man! Can't wait to see the finished product.
If you haven't already gotten some beautiful carbon fiber pieces for your interior, check out our site to see if anything would make you happy ;)

[ccsykes]

Great progress man! Can't wait to see the finished product.
If you haven't already gotten some beautiful carbon fiber pieces for your interior, check out our site to see if anything would make you happy ;)

I already got the full interior trim and steering wheel trim from you guys.. :buttrock:

In fact.. *cough*.. still waiting on the back order for the steering wheel trim from you guys :shifty:

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[Arwin]

sick:drool:

[t3stman]

Great job! Post up the dyno results when you get a chance and welcome to the VFE family :D

[stitchproduction]

Sick!!!!!

[Laidback]

Two Magazine editors wants to see your car in person at Mfest IV:buttrock:

this also applies to all who are modding or fixing up they will be on the lookout for cars at the event, here's your chance to show what you got bring everything you've got at Mfest IV:goldcup:

[ccsykes]

Two Magazine editors wants to see your car in person at Mfest IV:buttrock:

this also applies to all who are modding or fixing up they will be on the lookout for cars at the event, here's your chance to show what you got bring everything you've got at Mfest IV:goldcup:

Oh yeah :excited:

[ccsykes]

Two Magazine editors wants to see your car in person at Mfest IV:buttrock:

Final Mod List

Thought I would go ahead and list all the mods now that everything is finished. I'm going to make some kind of a show board for the car with the mods listed and pics of the build. This is a list of modifications from OEM only. I did not include all the new OEM components I have installed to replace worn parts.


Engine

VF-Engineering Stage II Supercharger Kit
Carbon Fiber Engine Cover
MRTM Designs Oil Filter Cover
Active Autowerke Oil Cap

Exhaust

Supersprint Stepped Headers
Supersprint Race Cats
Supersprint X-Pipe Non-Resonated
Supersprint Race Muffler

Ignition

Okada Projects Plasma Direct Coils

Cooling

Zionsville Aluminum Performance Radiator
Custom Dual Push/Pull 16" Spal Fan Cooling
55c Thermostat

Drive Train

BBS 19" RS-GT Diamond Black Wheels
Bridgestone RE-11's
Turner Motorsport 75MM Wheel Studs
Muteki Lug Nuts
JB Racing Aluminum Flywheel
Clutch Masters Modified Sachs Pressure Plate
Clutch Masters Ceramic 4 Puck Disc
Rouge Engineering Octane Short Shifter
Stoptech 355MM Big Brake Kit with Crossed Drilled Rotors
CDV Delete

Suspension

Bilstein PSS10 Coilovers
Turner Motorsport Rear Sway Bar
Turner Motorsport Rear Adjustable Links
Turner Motorsport Camber Bars
Powerflex RTAB's and FCAB's
BMW Motorsport Front Strut Brace

Interior

Custom Two Tone Black/Tangerine Leather Interior
Full Carbon Fiber Trim
Aclantra Shift Boot
Aclantra Parking Brake Boot
BMW Shift Knob Performance Edition
BMW Wind Deflector
BMW Motorsport Seat Belt Shoulder Pads
Bavarian Soundwerks Stage I Speaker Kit
Bavarian Soundwerks Sub Woofer Kit

Exterior

Vorsteiner GTS3 Front Spoiler
Vorsteiner VRS Vented Race Hood
Vorsteiner GTS3 Side Skirts
Vorsteiner VCSL Boot Lid
Vorsteiner VCSL Rear Diffuser
Smoked Corners
Smoked Side Markers
Matte Black Kidney Grills
Matte Black Side Grills
EAS Aurora 60LED Angel Eye Kit


I'm pretty sure that is everything..

[cullen61918]

Final Mod List

Thought I would go ahead and list all the mods now that everything is finished. I'm going to make some kind of a show board for the car with the mods listed and pics of the build. This is a list of modifications from OEM only. I did not include all the new OEM components I have installed to replace worn parts.


Engine

VF-Engineering Stage II Supercharger Kit
Carbon Fiber Engine Cover
MRTM Designs Oil Filter Cover
Active Autowerke Oil Cap

Exhaust

Supersprint Stepped Headers
Supersprint Race Cats
Supersprint X-Pipe Non-Resonated
Supersprint Race Muffler

Ignition

Okada Projects Plasma Direct Coils

Cooling

Zionsville Aluminum Performance Radiator
Custom Dual Push/Pull 16" Spal Fan Cooling
55c Thermostat

Drive Train

BBS 19" RS-GT Diamond Black Wheels
Bridgestone RE-11's
Turner Motorsport 75MM Wheel Studs
Muteki Lug Nuts
JB Racing Aluminum Flywheel
Clutch Masters Modified Sachs Pressure Plate
Clutch Masters Ceramic 4 Puck Disc
Rouge Engineering Octane Short Shifter
Stoptech 355MM Big Brake Kit with Crossed Drilled Rotors
CDV Delete

Suspension

Bilstein PSS10 Coilovers
Turner Motorsport Rear Sway Bar
Turner Motorsport Rear Adjustable Links
Turner Motorsport Camber Bars
Powerflex RTAB's and FCAB's
BMW Motorsport Front Strut Brace

Interior

Custom Two Tone Black/Tangerine Leather Interior
Full Carbon Fiber Trim
Aclantra Shift Boot
Aclantra Parking Brake Boot
BMW Shift Knob Performance Edition
BMW Wind Deflector
BMW Motorsport Seat Belt Shoulder Pads
Bavarian Soundwerks Stage I Speaker Kit
Bavarian Soundwerks Sub Woofer Kit

Exterior

Vorsteiner GTS3 Front Spoiler
Vorsteiner VRS Vented Race Hood
Vorsteiner GTS3 Side Skirts
Vorsteiner VCSL Boot Lid
Vorsteiner VCSL Rear Diffuser
Smoked Corners
Smoked Side Markers
Matte Black Kidney Grills
Matte Black Side Grills
EAS Aurora 60LED Angel Eye Kit


I'm pretty sure that is everything..

this is a serious ///M... :worshippy:

[ccsykes]

this is a serious ///M... :worshippy:

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[GOLFFRR]

nice

[42o]

clean clean clean

[E90///M3]

wow thats awesome! your build makes me want to hurry the hell up hahaha

[JDM99]

wow thats nice and clean!

[SC Trojan Man]

Sick build, can't wait to see it in Vegas. Verts with hardtops FTW!:goldcup:

[ccsykes]

Sick build, can't wait to see it in Vegas. Verts with hardtops FTW!:goldcup:

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[Laidback]

WoW:eek: attention to detail is sick:goldcup:

[sam@eurotuner]

Interesting color... :cool:

[Jurrian @ eas]

This is awesome, thanks for the updates... Can't wait to see this car in person ;)

[ccsykes]

Interesting color... :cool:

Custom tangerine and black interior, all new leather... this is not cinnamon..

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[david @ eas]

Talk about a head turner! LOVE the paintjob

[Raff]

Nice work man,,, will have to see that when it is at Mfest.

[ccsykes]

Nice work man,,, will have to see that when it is at Mfest.

More wet sanding.. and wet sanding.. and wet sanding..

[Mattie]

what a build. i am def. impressed. good stuff bro.

[ccsykes]

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[ccsykes]

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[remix405]

wow super sick!!!

[Audio City]

damn that car is gonna come out clean.....truly one of a kind

[slixx1320]

Wow. That is wicked! Very very nice! I don't want to be parking next to you at mfest! Definitely sick!!!!

[JEDDERS]

Thats hella nice man!!!

[E46transforM3r]

looks promising... looking forward to seeing the car in person :D

[Turbo_Tea]

wow this build is full of win

[Stean]

omg u will be mag stats when ur done :spam:

[canikickit?]

The color of your car is crazy homes and the parts list is firme. The color looks like radioactive guacamole but I think it'll work and grab some attention! But you're interior is kinda ****ed up. It looks kinda budget.

[ccsykes]

The color looks like radioactive guacamole but I think it'll work and grab some attention! But you're interior is kinda ****ed up. It looks kinda budget.

Radioactive Guacamole.. haha.. that's pretty funny actually. The color is basically a cross between Porsche Gelb Green and MOPAR Sublime Green.

The interior is hand stitched premium leather. It has a softer feel like you would find on leather furniture. Because of the "soft" nature of the leather, it is not as photogenic as stiff OEM leather. However, I assure you.. it was anything but "budget" lol. The paint alone has 8 coats of Standox 2K clearcoat..

I'm well aware the color combo is risky and there is a chance it simply won't work (If it doesn't.. I'll come up with something else). Getting the right match is not exactly an easy task believe it or not. Also finding balance by breaking up the color scheme with items like the BBS wheels, Red BBK and C/F accents. Until everything comes together, its hard to truly visualize the finished product. The color combo was inspired by this photo..

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[slixx1320]

Question, how much did it cost to have your seats rewrapped? PM if yo don't want to disclose the info on here.

[ccsykes]

Question, how much did it cost to have your seats rewrapped? PM if yo don't want to disclose the info on here.

PM sent.. http://www.texasautotrim.com did the work.

[BSM 135i]

OMG OMG OMG! Can't wait to see it in person at MFest!!

[ccsykes]

OMG OMG OMG! Can't wait to see it in person at MFest!!

Thanks for the kudos.. waiting to finish the car has been driving me nuts.. I'm going to be too scared to even drive it haha.. worried someone will scratch it or it might get dirty lol..

[///M3Lover]

Just sick!

The GTS3 Front Lip is the hottest lip for E46 M3s, good choice! :cool:

[canikickit?]

Radioactive Guacamole.. haha.. that's pretty funny actually. The color is basically a cross between Porsche Gelb Green and MOPAR Sublime Green.

The interior is hand stitched premium leather. It has a softer feel like you would find on leather furniture. Because of the "soft" nature of the leather, it is not as photogenic as stiff OEM leather. However, I assure you.. it was anything but "budget" lol. The paint alone has 8 coats of Standox 2K clearcoat..

I'm well aware the color combo is risky and there is a chance it simply won't work (If it doesn't.. I'll come up with something else). Getting the right match is not exactly an easy task believe it or not. Also finding balance by breaking up the color scheme with items like the BBS wheels, Red BBK and C/F accents. Until everything comes together, its hard to truly visualize the finished product. The color combo was inspired by this photo..

http://myrosepetals.com/catalog/images/lime_orange_two_tone.jpg
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You're a good man amigo! Now that you put that photo into the mix I can see where you're headed and you just might be right but nonetheless you get my respect for taking chances and standing by your vision and explaining it.

[E46transforM3r]

You're a good man amigo! Now that you put that photo into the mix I can see where you're headed and you just might be right but nonetheless you get my respect for taking chances and standing by your vision and explaining it.

+1:clap:

[canikickit?]

+1:clap:

Aye chihuahua robot boy! Thank you for the brownie point! It taste so good amigo! I found Jesus and now I'm a changed man and am here for the familia. :excited: Bwah! But on the real, the real, this man ccykes seems solid and he's definitely not a lil viejecita! :buttrock:

[ccsykes]

Aye chihuahua robot boy! Thank you for the brownie point! It taste so good amigo! I found Jesus and now I'm a changed man and am here for the familia. :excited: Bwah! But on the real, the real, this man ccykes seems solid and he's definitely not a lil viejecita! :buttrock:

little old lady lol.. I'm like the far opposite.. I'm a stock promoter :devillook:

[ccsykes]

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[Big Mike]

Damnit! I love what you've done with the CF accents!!! Nice job!!!!

[Laidback]

It's (parts and color combo) coming into place really well:goldcup:

[ccsykes]

It's (parts and color combo) coming into place really well:goldcup:

Thanks.. once they get the car reassembled, they will start the "cut and buff". The car has 7-8 coats of Standox 2K clearcoat. The cut and buff should remove what orange peel is present and any air bubbles etc..

I'm hoping to have it ready by this weekend.

[Yukohama]

It's (parts and color combo) coming into place really well:goldcup:

+1 that is epic, lov the color with the cf accents:drool:

[armorrig]

Ya mind disclosing how much you spent on this project.

[ccsykes]

Ya mind disclosing how much you spent on this project.

A few dollars :secret:

[VIPForgedModular]

wow I'm speechless!!

[Laidback]

Looking at this pics again and the attention to detail is plain:worshippy: :worshippy: :worshippy:

[sjl888]

amazing:clap:

[Orange fever]

very sick, love it =)

[ccsykes]

very sick, love it =)

Thanks bud.. figured since you were the first to do Orange.. I'll be the first to do lime green lol.. well at least lime green in the U.S. There is another one that is metallic green.

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[t3stman]

Damn! I love the uniqueness of the color on an E46 M3. I hope you clear bra the baby unless you want to repaint the car again. Do you happen to own the paint shop :)?

[BG87]

soooo sick. can't wait to see it!

hmmm i think gloss black wheels would set it off! hmm maybe i'll pshop it after everything is together ;]

[leletyM3]

Car is coming out very nice!!

[Jumpmann23]

Sick bro!!!

[JCiesla]

Very impressive. Totally worth the wait to buffer HD videos with my lousy internet connection. Makes me want to go mod something, but my latest packages have yet to arrive :shifty:.

Keep it up, I look forward to seeing the completed project! :D

[ccsykes]

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[David @ ViP Status]

Nice!

[JDM99]

Damn looks sick! Love the lime green and carbon fiber combo.

[rench]

sick ... nice work !

[ccsykes]

@ Import Reactor in Houston..

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[ccsykes]

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[JCiesla]

Awesome start. Congrats!

[Laidback]

+1 Congrats!:goldcup:

[RadzM]

sick! congrats!

[Yukohama]

dannggg thats soo sickk! really catchy paint color thats grown on me

[ccsykes]

dannggg thats soo sickk! really catchy paint color thats grown on me

Yeah, the color is definitely controversial. It changes color quite dramatically depending on the light. It goes from a deep rich lime green to an almost florescent yellow.

Problem is... the interior doesn't change color.. so under certain lighting conditions it looks.. well.. strange is the best way to explain it haha..

But.. the paint is simply spectacular. The depth on the clear coat is amazing. Taking 1st place paint at the Import Reactor car show was pretty sensational. It is one of the larger import/tuner car shows in Houston.

[ccsykes]

Some vids my bud took today.. lol.. last video you can hear the response after some one cut him off..

YouTube- MOV0A6 (1).mpg

YouTube- MOV0A6 (4).mpg

YouTube- MOV0A6 (5).mpg

[Ugleeboi]

looks good rollin

[Laidback]

:drool:

[sjl888]

:worshippy:

[ccsykes]

:drool:

Couple more pics.. and a video of the event by a third party..

YouTube- Import Reactor 2010 STACKWELL


The car is hard to take pictures of, especially for an amateur like me.. the color changes with the lighting.. The clear coat is so glossy it reflects in photos. I guess I need to use a tripod and longer shutter speed or something..


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Here are a couple of pictures that were posted by other people on Houston-imports.com (folks who can take better pictures than me haha)


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[xplosiveg06]

saw the car at mfest in the parking garage. your car looks amazing.

[JunMT]

Very beautiful car, my girlfriend and I :drool:ed over it at the Cars & Coffee in Vegas, definitely unique

[KISSTHS]

I loved those side skirts..... and all the details you put into this build.

[remix405]

ur car is amazing... if you dint wint best euro then what car did?

[HondaGoneRogue]

Awesome job from start to finish. It takes a special kind of individual and tons of brain racking to build something so unique. Props. Hopefully one day I will have such a build thread.

[ccsykes]

ur car is amazing... if you dint wint best euro then what car did?

Thanks guys for all the comments.

I confirmed that my car was never judged for the car show after recieving a message from Sam with Eurotuner who judged the cars. Mfest, though the event was very impressive and I got to meet some really awesome people and see some impressive cars, I left very disappointed and frustrated.

I arrived late Friday evening and from that point forward the information and communication I received was extremely poor. I'm not that active on this forum so I didn't have the knowledge many others had going into this.

Many of the Mfest volunteers and staff appeared to have not been adequately informed or prepared for the event. Obviously, those who frequently read and participate on this forum probably were better equipped to navigate the lack of communication at the event... unfortunately for me.. it resulted in being given bad information, or no information at all and missing out on both the car show and subsequent interest by Bimmer magazine..

I hope the organizers of Mfest realize the deficiencies that were present at Mfest IV in regards to communication and information dissemination and are able to correct it next year.

They need to realize, not everyone that attends an event promoted as heavily as Mfest IV participates actively on these forums and knows the right people to contact to get answers from.

If your going to have a main registration booth... it needs to be staffed by people who fully understand the event and its itinerary and can point you to the right people if you have questions.

For me, Mfest was a bust.. :(

[ironcheflam]

Thanks guys for all the comments.

I confirmed that my car was never judged for the car show after recieving a message from Sam with Eurotuner who judged the cars. Mfest, though the event was very impressive and I got to meet some really awesome people and see some impressive cars, I left very disappointed and frustrated.

I arrived late Friday evening and from that point forward the information and communication I received was extremely poor. I'm not that active on this forum so I didn't have the knowledge many others had going into this.

Many of the Mfest volunteers and staff appeared to have not been adequately informed or prepared for the event. Obviously, those who frequently read and participate on this forum probably were better equipped to navigate the lack of communication at the event... unfortunately for me.. it resulted in being given bad information, or no information at all and missing out on both the car show and subsequent interest by Bimmer magazine..

I hope the organizers of Mfest realize the deficiencies that were present at Mfest IV in regards to communication and information dissemination and are able to correct it next year.

They need to realize, not everyone that attends an event promoted as heavily as Mfest IV participates actively on these forums and knows the right people to contact to get answers from.

If your going to have a main registration booth... it needs to be staffed by people who fully understand the event and its itinerary and can point you to the right people if you have questions.

For me, Mfest was a bust.. :(


not to rain on your parade or anything but your car just reminds me of a lime green version of orange fevers car...we've been there and done that. I'm not saying it was done up nicely because it was. Its just that we've seen e46m's up and down and around and around...i'm sure you saw hpf stage 3 e46m...and a few others.

just my two cents. i agree registration was pretty hetic but you have to realize that mfest is not all about the awards, prizes and giveaways, we are about the meeting of new enthusiasts, and making new friends. If you felt you deserved an "award" for showing your car, that is your opinion. Take care and best of luck to you.

This reply has no affiliation with the owners or admins just my personal opinion.

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[HondaGoneRogue]

not to rain on your parade or anything but your car just reminds me of a lime green version of orange fevers car...

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I actually had to look at the screen name twice to make sure it wasn't orange fever lol. I thought an old thread just got bumped.

Still....a very nice build.

[ccsykes]

just my two cents. i agree registration was pretty hetic but you have to realize that mfest is not all about the awards, prizes and giveaways, we are about the meeting of new enthusiasts, and making new friends. If you felt you deserved an "award" for showing your car, that is your opinion. Take care and best of luck to you.

Let me try it this way..

This wasn't about winning an award, or not winning an award. This was about attending an event heavily promoted, reaching out to a National audience and then failing to meet the standards of most National and Regional events in terms of communication and information. Maybe I'm being a bit critical because I work in Promotion, Public Relations and Corporate Communications.

Point is, I'm not the only one who was slightly frustrated with the lack of organization. I'm just being more vocal because I traveled 3,200 miles round trip and was given information by Mfest staff that in essence contributed to my not even participating in the car show... which is the primary reason I came. Meeting people and enjoying time with fellow enthusiasts is a given, car show or not. Traveling 3,200 miles, hauling a show car to enter a competition and then not even compete... It was a considerable expense for me. I do not have a sponsor nor am I affiliated with any teams, my build, upkeep and my travel expenses are burdened solely by myself.

Things were unorganized from the start, It took me 2 hours after arriving in Las Vegas to even figure out where to park my trailer. A day before the event was to start, the best I got from Mfest staff when I asked about trailer parking was "We are working on it".

I'm not complaining about the event itself, I enjoyed it and I enjoyed meeting new people, many of whom had followed my build for months. I also do see and respect the amount of effort that Chris and his staff have put into this event. I know quite well what it takes to put events together such as this, it is what I do for a living. However, promoting an event to the extent Mfest IV was promoted comes with some responsibility. Consider the entry fee.. Yes, this included quite a bit, but still quite a premium compared to most major Regional and National events.

If you want Mfest to be a National event.. it needs to be run like one... Not just a "message board" meet on steroids.

Again, folks at Mfest can either see my complaints as someone who is just whining.. or they can learn from it and make Mfest V a more organized event to rival and surpass other National events. The potential is there, it just needs to be polished more.

[Pure Euro]

The car looks absolutely top-notch and I congratulate you for a job-well-done!

[ironcheflam]

If you want Mfest to be a National event.. it needs to be run like one... Not just a "message board" meet on steroids.

Again, folks at Mfest can either see my complaints as someone who is just whining.. or they can learn from it and make Mfest V a more organized event to rival and surpass other National events. The potential is there, it just needs to be polished more.

i'm not here to judge you or anything but if you go way back to when 'mfest' was first started...it was just 5 friends with the same passion going to one place and having a good time. I think you are right, this might just be a "message board" meet on steroids. I'm not too sure what chris' goal was when he first put together mfest 3 and 4 but I think the goal was the same as when this first started. Just a bunch of guys (gals) having a good time.

Like I've said before your car is :drool: not going to lie but I think everyone drove their cars in even the show cars, the only ones to not get driven in are the track cars... I commend you for making the 3,200 mi trek I myself would never, but all in all I'm hoping you had a great time like the rest of us.

I'm sorry I didn't get to meet you in person there was just too many people and I did get to check out your car in person and it is very well done, I think we are more then just a car show and I'm sure you've run events which are far greater then what we had just done but mind you, you had a team of professionals this is the first time Chris had to deal with this big of a crowd and all the volunteers aren't paid to do this, they do this because they are MFEST.

I'm not here to just bash on you I'm sure you've worked hard on your car as many of us did. But we do it because we love to do it as I'm sure you do too. Please if you have any suggestions for Mfest 5 please let mfest chris know because I'm sure he would love all the help he can get.

Sorry for ranting on your thread. Just my 2 cents again, and this has no affiliations with mfest owners or admins, just a member.

[Audio City]

this car is unique i havent seen another one like it....

congrats

[ccsykes]

Sorry for ranting on your thread. Just my 2 cents again, and this has no affiliations with mfest owners or admins, just a member.

No need for disclaimers.. Yes, I had a good time and enjoyed it aside from the issues I already mentioned.

I also realize when your putting an event together on this scale, the little details can be forgotten.

A simple one page flier with information, times, locations and instructions handed out with the t-shirts etc.. could have solved all these problems. Instructing folks on where to meet and when, then having people at those locations with the proper knowledge to instruct.

I had to find out about trailer parking on my own. I was down in the Garage Saturday morning as countless folks walked around unsure as to what to do, who to talk too and how to group up. If I had wanted to go to the Go-Kart event.. I wouldn't even have had a clue how to get there.

I realize Mfest started out as a small group and many of you guys meet on a regular basis and it is through those meets that Mfest has grown. That was quite obvious in how folks grouped up and left for both the track and Coffee and Cars.. That didn't do any good for the folks like me that didn't know anyone, If I hadn't been so persistent, I would have probably missed the one group that did form up for Coffee and Cars..

When you invite folks from across the Country and actually ask them to come.. you need to be prepared to hold those folks hands as they do not know the same people, nor are familiar with the area etc.. You can't assume that everyone will just "know" where they need to be and when.

Again.. a simple hand out with information and having folks in charge be at the places designated at the posted times. It's the simple things that make the difference.

Had I came into California and participated in the Caravan I'm pretty sure I would not have had any of the problems I had. I'm quite sure, enough people would have been able to fill me in.. However I did not.. but if your running a three day event, you need to be prepared for those folks like me that only come for a particular event or time.

Again.. There is no need to get defensive, this should be a learning experience for all.. including me. If I come out to Mfest next year, I will have a better idea what I need to do.. hopefully the organizers will not see my complaints as whining, but see it for what it is and improve the event next year for the better.

[HondaGoneRogue]

I asked for an Iternerary and it was very informative. I take it you didn't ask for one? Usually every show\meet\convention I've ever been to has had iteneraries. As far as the trailer parking goes, I'm sure the hotel staff is very used to accomodating trailers during various events and they could have more than likely helped you. Like someone else said, mostly everyone drove thier cars as thats a big portion of the experience. Sorry to hear that you missed so much. I had the opposite experience that you had. It was my first Mfest, and I knew NOBODY, luckily I am from vegas so I didn't have to travel far (but bet your behind I would). Everyone was great and invited me with open arms to all the events and activites.

[ccsykes]

I asked for an Iternerary and it was very informative. I take it you didn't ask for one?

I asked a lot of questions.. an itinerary was never provided. I was told by the ladies at the Mfest registration booth that there wasn't any awards for a car show and didn't know anything about a car show..

Like I said.. I imagine if I had showed up for the Caravan, my experience would have been quite a bit different. It seems the majority of the info was given at that time.. us late arrivals had to fend for ourselves.

As can been seen by the numerous pictures taken at Mfest.. hardly a single one was snapped of my car. This was because after "asking" where to park for the car show, I was directed to the fringes of the event to park. Many folks who were looking for my car didn't even know I had shown up lol...

None of the folks parked around me even knew anything about a show.. in fact, by about 2PM when i left.. half the cars you see parked around me had left..

So much for the "car show" parking?

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[randomquickness]

I was a little confused about the car show too. I think next time we should do a car show separate from the track day. Sucks that you had the lack of info, I'm sure MFV will be even better than the awesome weekend it already was! And I hope you come back for V cuz I literally checked out your car for like 20 minutes or more in the parking garage!

[endofanera7]

A simple one page flier with information, times, locations and instructions handed out with the t-shirts etc.. could have solved all these problems. Instructing folks on where to meet and when, then having people at those locations with the proper knowledge to instruct.

A detailed Itinerary with all the information and addresses was given out to participants who registered at the Palazzo Hotel Conference room. The same itinerary was posted on the forums and facebook page for people who couldnt make it to the registration. How else do you want them to be handed out?

If you have all that time you take photos of your build journal and write about it on the forum, I dont see why you dont have 2 mins to take a look at the itinerary and print it out before you drive to Vegas?



When you invite folks from across the Country and actually ask them to come.. you need to be prepared to hold those folks hands as they do not know the same people, nor are familiar with the area etc.. You can't assume that everyone will just "know" where they need to be and when.

Again.. a simple hand out with information and having folks in charge be at the places designated at the posted times. It's the simple things that make the difference.

Im not here to bash on you or anything but, this line cracks me up, "hold those folks hands". MFest's goal is to bring all the enthusiasts together thru camaraderie, not to babysit them. When you're attending such a huge event that has hundreds of participants, you can't expect their handful number of staffs to be waiting to roll out a red carpet for you. There are hundreds of other participants including folks from across the nation and other parts of the world too.


That's my 2cents.

[endofanera7]

With all that said, you're car is sick. I give you mad props for all the time and money you put in your car. However, there are other insane E46 M3s at the event too. I think it's well deserved for those who won and Sam@Euroturner did a great job picking the cars. For someone who analyzes and writes about cars all day, if you're car deserved to win, Im sure it will at the upcoming events.

Excellent journal, best of luck!

[remix405]

i was actually refering to the picture you got of your car and 2awards not the mfest car show... but im sorry to hear u dint enjoy mfest as it should it will be a note taken im preety sure mfest will improve as it grows...

Thanks guys for all the comments.

I confirmed that my car was never judged for the car show after recieving a message from Sam with Eurotuner who judged the cars. Mfest, though the event was very impressive and I got to meet some really awesome people and see some impressive cars, I left very disappointed and frustrated.

I arrived late Friday evening and from that point forward the information and communication I received was extremely poor. I'm not that active on this forum so I didn't have the knowledge many others had going into this.

Many of the Mfest volunteers and staff appeared to have not been adequately informed or prepared for the event. Obviously, those who frequently read and participate on this forum probably were better equipped to navigate the lack of communication at the event... unfortunately for me.. it resulted in being given bad information, or no information at all and missing out on both the car show and subsequent interest by Bimmer magazine..

I hope the organizers of Mfest realize the deficiencies that were present at Mfest IV in regards to communication and information dissemination and are able to correct it next year.

They need to realize, not everyone that attends an event promoted as heavily as Mfest IV participates actively on these forums and knows the right people to contact to get answers from.

If your going to have a main registration booth... it needs to be staffed by people who fully understand the event and its itinerary and can point you to the right people if you have questions.

For me, Mfest was a bust.. :(

[ccsykes]

A detailed Itinerary with all the information and addresses was given out to participants who registered at the Palazzo Hotel Conference room. The same itinerary was posted on the forums and facebook page for people who couldnt make it to the registration. How else do you want them to be handed out?

Dude, this thing was promoted with full page adds in at least two National Magazines.. Bimmer Magazine and Euro Tuner.. I didn't see anything in those adds about reading Facebook or this Forum for information.

Have you been to any major events? I guess you haven't or you would know the huge difference in how they are run. I know this may come as a huge shock to you.. but some of us are busy with jobs, families etc.. and don't have time to read these forums or check out Facebook.. Some of us aren't the Nintendo generation and have all day to f"off on the internet.

I did just what the add stated.. I registered at Mfest.com. That is when I found out about this forum and put my build thread on it.. All I did was just mirror what I was posting at M3forums which is pretty much the only forum I spend any amount of time on and it's not much time at that.

What's with this bull**** trying to put the blame on me? I didn't make it to the Friday registration cause I was too busy trying to figure out where to park my goddamn 20' trailer. Nobody at Mfest could give me any info.. I had to circle jerk with the Palazzo staff to figure it out on my own. You have any idea what it is like trying to pull a 20' enclosed trailer around the strip at 4PM on a Friday after traveling 1,600 miles?? Let me give you a clue.. it blew major ass.

When I arrived I asked Mfest staff that was present what I needed to do, they told me to register at the track and that is exactly what I did. It was that same registration booth that told me they didn't know anything about a car show. It was Mfest staff that parked me way out in bum **** egypt..

I'm sorry guy, but I don't have Chris on speed dial. I didn't even know what the guy looked like until Sunday. I don't know anyone on this forum, I don't actively participate on this forum and I don't spend much time on Facebook either for that matter.

I have been going to automotive events across this country for 20 years, from drag racing, to car shows and rally's. I have never seen a Nationally advertised event so unorganized in my life..

You want to blame me? I didn't do enough? This is what happens when a small local meet tries to go National but tries to run the event like a local meet.. When you put full page adds in National magazines.. you need to be prepared to handle folks like me that don't know dick about Mfest other than the event itself.

Seriously guy, you think I drove half way across the Country to this show to make this stuff up?

Mfest organizers I'm sure are quite well aware of the deficiencies that were present at the event. I've talked to enough folks already who share my same sentiment, they are just not as vocal about it as I am..

[Laidback]

All info was on Mfest.com but I know and understand your frustrations and as i have emailed you last week before you posted about it and said it is duly noted we'll improve it next time around, there's no more on this topic that have not been said or posted by you or other members aswell, so lets move on and request you and everyone else here keep everything on topic from this point on (which is your build journal) thanks bradah...

[JEDDERS]

Lets get back to the topic. Very nice car! It was a great build!

[ccsykes]

All info was on Mfest.com but I know and understand your frustrations and as i have emailed you last week before you posted about it and said it is duly noted we'll improve it next time around, there's no more on this topic that have not been said or posted by you or other members aswell, so lets move on and request you and everyone else here keep everything on topic from this point on (which is your build journal) thanks bradah...

I agree, my initial post was simply to state the problems I had and I believe I did so in a professional manner in the hopes that Mfest staff would recognize them. I also apologize if the tone got harsh, but having forum members ridicule me instead of having a productive discussion on ways to improve the problem pushed my buttons a little.

As I said previously, I enjoyed the event itself and I enjoyed meeting new folks. I will also say that the majority of the folks that I spent time with and who were the most friendly, were folks like me that were from out of town and didn't know anyone.

You guys need to keep one thing in mind.. Everyone here, mainly the local folks, view Mfest as a family. You guys meet on a regular basis and all know each other quite well. When you begin to reach out to a National audience however your bringing strangers into your house.

Mfest folks need to understand that Human nature is to make clicks, packs and clans. One thing I noticed at Mfest, was that regulars kept together close and knew what was going on. There wasn't enough designated staff to help out guys like me. Because the Mfest regulars did not go out of their way to reach out to us new guys in order to overcome the lack of staff.. we out of town folks had to group up and that was basically like the blind leading the blind.

For the most part, everyone I met was very friendly and did their best to help.. but you have to realize.. the event was very clickish..

[Laidback]

No worries and maybe you can help help us out on the next (as from our previous emails) :goldcup:I agree, my initial post was simply to state the problems I had and I believe I did so in a professional manner in the hopes that Mfest staff would recognize them. I also apologize if the tone got harsh, but having forum members ridicule me instead of having a productive discussion on ways to improve the problem pushed my buttons a little.

As I said previously, I enjoyed the event itself and I enjoyed meeting new folks. I will also say that the majority of the folks that I spent time with and who were the most friendly, were folks like me that were from out of town and didn't know anyone.

You guys need to keep one thing in mind.. Everyone here, mainly the local folks, view Mfest as a family. You guys meet on a regular basis and all know each other quite well. When you begin to reach out to a National audience however your bringing strangers into your house.

Mfest folks need to understand that Human nature is to make clicks, packs and clans. One thing I noticed at Mfest, was that regulars kept together close and knew what was going on. There wasn't enough designated staff to help out guys like me. Because the Mfest regulars did not go out of their way to reach out to us new guys in order to overcome the lack of staff.. we out of town folks had to group up and that was basically like the blind leading the blind.

For the most part, everyone I met was very friendly and did their best to help.. but you have to realize.. the event was very clickish..

[HondaGoneRogue]

Edit: LaidBack said it best :) :grouphug:

[RadzM]

I completely feel you bro, and I am very confident that Chris and Mfest will hear and fix your concerns. I've said it before and I will say it again that Mfest is getting better and better year after year. Mad respect on what you have done to your car! :goldcup: